Winky Wright vs Kelly Pavlik

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I'm not gonna say that I agree with Pavlik's comments when he said he was going to "smack Winky around," not because I don't think it would be true, but just because I think it's disrespectful, but I don't know the whole story, so I'll leave it at that.

    Anyway, about the fight.

    In an article posted earlier on this site I'm not going to dig up, (it's on this site and your welcome to research it if necessary), Bernard Hopkins said that Pavlik would likely KO Winky Wright.

    I agree with his assessment.

    While Winky has great defense, he's lost a step in his footwork which will make him a relatively stationary target. This does not bode well against a man who isn't terribly fast, but has thudding power in both hands.

    Winky will have some early success using his high guard, but eventually those punches will add up and inevitably some will get through, and generally in the case of most of Pavlik's opponents, that is the beggining of the end.

    What usually starts his opponents downfall though are hard and thudding bodyshots. While Winky's abnormally long upperarms will block a lot of these shots, his sides will get hammered because it's doubtful that Kelly will be detered by Winky's power, especially as the fight goes past the 5th round.

    Pavlik had somewhat of a hard time landing bodyshots on Taylor in the second fight, but that's because Taylor was utilizing his legs, staying in the middle of the ring, and because Pavlik respected his power.

    For a guy like Wright who doesn't move much and prefers to use his arms and gloves as his defense, he will get pummeled with shots, whether they're deflected off his arms or gloves, they will still add up and break Winky down.

    Some will say that Winky pushed Taylor back against the ropes and took his punches, so why couldn't he take Pavlik's? Well, while I think Taylor is an athletic prodigy, he neglected to throw very many bodyshots at all that would have certainly turned the fight in his favor and allowed him, the BIGGER MAN, to push Winky back in the corner and possibly finish him off.

    Taylor didn't use movement, angles, or bodyshots in his fight, and the result of it was a fight that could have gone to Winky Wright. Pavlik doesn't have the athleticism that Taylor has, but he is more relaxed in the ring, has powerful hard hitting, thudding hands, and varies his attack, throwing a lot of shots for the duration of the fight.

    Winky at this point in his career is made for Kelly Pavlik. He's a stationary target with little power. Kelly won't have to worry about being knocked out, and he won't have to chase Winky because he'll be right there to hit. He won't get tired because he's relaxed and he routinely throws so many punches in a fight.

    Winky is a tough kid and I think he'll last a long time. But eventually, in the later rounds, Winky will get broken down and stopped. I think there is a reason that Winky was a no show on Friday Night Fights. I think he realizes how difficult a fight Pavlik will be and he doesn't want any part of him. No appearence in the public means no public questions.

    Will this fight happen, I don't know, but if it does, look for Winky to be stopped for the first time in his career.

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  2. CocoJumbo

    CocoJumbo Member Full Member

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    Exactly what I would have said. Great post
     
  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Good post, sounds good to me my man.
     
  4. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What has Winky done exactly, to warrant a title shot?:huh
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    He got a draw against Taylor.
     
  6. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh well thats allright then.:D
     
  7. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Besides Abraham, what other fight out there makes sense at 160?
     
  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Very Very Bad Styles Matchup For Pavlik...
    This Is the Fight Winky has needed To Get Back Into The Mix
    (Tho I'm Not The Biggest Fan of Winky's Style....)

    Why Would Kelly Take this Match?
    Wright IMO, Would be By far The hardest opponent Pavlik has And will ever face. Even more So Than Jermain.

    Pavliks People Should Be Fired! & Shot If They Make This Fight.
    Very Bad Choice in Opponents. (IMO)

    I'd wait on The JC Vs. B-Hop match Instead...
     
  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously the division is in a very healthy state at the moment.:blood
    I take your point however.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Winky by TKO - Accumulation.











    ok no. But Winky by UD.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    How is this a bad styles matchup?

    You lost me on this one.

    A bad styles matchup for Pavlik is a guy that can box circles around him. Winky ain't gonna do that. He doesn't have the legs for that. The Bernard that beat Trinidad and De La Hoya would be a bad style match up for him.

    Mundine would be a bad style matchup for Pavlik, as would Calzaghe because all of those guys I mentioned move well around the ring.

    Even Kessler would have a good chance at beating Pavlik because of his movement.

    However, Wright doesn't have power, so he ain't gonna be able to bullrush Pavlik, and he doesn't use his legs, so he's gonna get hit.

    I think Pavlik is a bad styles matchup for Winky, not the other way around.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Bet the house on it Amsterdam, I'm sure about this one :yep
     
  14. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I look for Pavlik 115-113, 116-112, and 117-111.
     
  15. cannon5974

    cannon5974 Member Full Member

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    I agree with all of this, but I thought the same about Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright. I thought Winky was tailor made for Trinidad!