Wisaksil Wangek vs. Juan Francisco Estrada II & Daniel Román vs. Terrence John Doheny RBR

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Estrada was the quicker, sharper boxer from the get-go and he boxed really well and swept the first 2/3 of the fight. SSR looks a faded fighter to me and he looked vulnerable in his last outing, in a fight where IIRC he was dropped x 2 and the ref chose not to count them because SSR was fighting in Thailand. No idea why SSR decided to box orthodox tonight thought that was dumb with a capital D.
     
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  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Highly doubt it. He couldn't stop him when estrada was not 100 percent.
     
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  3. sid

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    :roflmao:
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Estrada would still win imo. But it definitely would be a wayyyy better fight. I want them to ask Sor why the **** he fought orthodox.
     
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  5. jquest

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    Reminded me a bit of Pacquiao Morales 1
     
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  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I think the stance could have made a difference. If Estrada was eating punches, SSR throws strong punches too, it could have change the fight if they had landed earlier and accumulated.

    All guess and speculation of course. Reality was Estrada outboxed him.
     
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  7. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    I really don’t understand what Sergio means by a pound for pound performance. Have we started rating performances on some pound for pound scale? What does that even entail
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Hey, look at it this way, he closed very strong. He can always blame fighting as an orthodox fighter for his loss.

    Was that strategic?

    After all, he probably gets a third fight and another huge pay day. Hmmmm.:rolleyes:
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wanted Estrada to win but I also wanted a good fight. Sor robbed us of that. With these shitty fights recently, I thought this was going to be a good one, at least Doheny/Roman salvaged the night.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Rungvisai won by shut out tonight.



















    IF. You only score the rounds he fought the majority as a southpaw.
     
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morales schooled Pacquiao but it was more competitive than this. This was a joke man. Estrada sonned him so badly.
     
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  12. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    His KO ratio told me that.

    Upon replay Soto didn't seem out of it, and those blows weren't all landing. As far as Vargas' power. You would knock out Ali if you landed a good shot on his chin. Ali isn't that good. Bradley wasn't close to being stopped. If it was that easy than Provodnikov would have done it a few years prior. I don't recall Broner being staggered. Vargas does not have heavy hands. If his hands are so heavy why doesn't he have more stoppages? He was hitting an old shopworn 130 pounder repeatedly and it took him how long to even hurt him?
     
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  13. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SSR Did not work as hard as first fight with Estrada but still not a bad fight.
    right man won.
     
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  14. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The shots weren't landing all that flush in the final sequence. And Sotos eyes seemed coherent, he was trying to intelligently defend.
     
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  15. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More that Estrada had a comfortable lead and the fight in the bag but still stood and traded in the final rounds when he didn't need to.
     
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