Witch fighter gets the most overrated on this forum?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    It’s not “delusional” to think either man would win, whether you think Tyson wins (as I do) or Lewis wins, neither view is delusional nor underrating Lewis.
     
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  2. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson because he was absolutely shite
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis is bigger, stronger, higher IQ, harder puncher, Lewis is too good to get hit clean early on against Tyson, (McCall fight was when he was inexperienced and also that was a counterpunch), he would let Tyson gas himself out for 2 or 3 rounds, then when he becomes stationary and flat footed, Lewis would pick him apart, push him back in the clinch and demoralize him and eventually stop him or KO him, it would look similar to the actual fight, except Tyson wouldn't gas as early
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Tyson was also much quicker, more accurate, had superior reflexed, had a much better defense and a much better chin. Despite your claims that he was "too good to get hit clean early on against Tyson" many inferior fighters to Tyson had no issue hitting him cleanly, and even knocking him out early. The only delusional person here is you, who thinks Tyson and has no chance and says stuff like the following:

    Of course Lewis is superman, and anyone who gives any fighter a chance against him is a delusional fool. :lol: Jesus Christ, your words reek of an awestruck child. Lewis was an excellent fighter and a H2H monster, but he wasn't this unbeatable Superman you're trying to make him out to be, or else he wouldn't have struggled with Bruno, Mercer (who an old Holmes beat far easier). a 37 year old Holyfield, or flat out KTFO against McCall and Rahman.
     
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  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are we forgetting that same Holyfield battered and stopped Tyson? Lewis would be 100% focused for Tyson because he knows the danger he brings early in fights, Lewis wouldn't give up loads of ground like most did and end up on the ropes in seconds, he would be standing his ground in the middle and when Tyson does try to explode he would just take a few backwards steps and hold, or just pivot off, when he does hold, Lewis would push him back and lean on him for a few rounds until he becomes gassed and then he would just pick him apart.
    Tyson does not have a better defense than Lewis, yes he has good head movement, but he was always open for the uppercut, when Lewis got caught or knocked out, well first that was due to inexperience, he threw and jab cross and the right was not really set up and he leaned in when he threw it and got caught with a perfect counter, the Rahman one he lost focus and thought he was in a safe position, if you want to look at a lazy switched off Lewis and the contrast between that Lewis and the one who came switched on and up for it, look at the Rahman 1 fight the the Rahman 2 fight, it is night and day, there was no holes in Lewis's defense like you seem to believe, he just switched off in some fights where he fought he was safe
     
  7. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    How is Lewis a harder puncher than Tyson?
     
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  8. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson's power is overrated, he has some great KO's on highlight reels, but that was against people who weighed like 185lbs and stuff, he never sparked out anyone at world level who was a decent sized heavyweight other than Botha and Lewis KO'd Botha himself, Lewis sparked out Rahman in their rematch and Michael Grant
    Tyson's knockouts look good when he jumps in with left hooks and throws fast powerful combinations, but the speed of the combinations and the closing of distance often makes people think higher of his power
     
  9. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    He is defenitely not the hardest puncher in boxing's history...not even close actually, but he still has the right to be called a big puncher. So is Lewis.
    Anyway, how is Lennox a harder puncher than Mike Tyson?
     
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  10. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. steve1990

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    Razor Ruddock he lost every important fight he was in.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So your saying Mike Tysons prime was against 185 pound guys ? lol. Almost all of them were well over 200 pounds. Lennox Lewis possibly could have hit as hard if not harder but Tyson was a better KO artist
     
  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Lewis is a lot bigger for 1 and also Lewis has a straight right which is typically the hardest type of punch and he also has explosiveness, a powerful straight right will always be more powerful than a powerful left hook
     
  14. Stiches Yarn

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    Fury was alot bigger than Tyson and marciano, i'm not sure if he was a harder puncher though.
     
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  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox had amazing one-shot power, but I think he had to set up a certain way. He was actually a bit like Bowe in that way, both men would throw very powerful rights, but the context had to be there. Bowe tended to loop and thus miss his more often though, especially post-Holy I.
     
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