Witch fighter gets the most overrated on this forum?

I wouldn't call world champion heavyweight boxers "bums" dude. You've gotten way too brave on these boards my friend.

 

So not only do you hate the Tyson fans, you hate Mike Tyson because in your eyes he faced "bums". Got it.

 

I’m done man
Every time I hop on here I get messages from you or some other Tyson fan boys, if you see my post about Tyson just ignore it. I really don’t like talking down this much on a fighter I like because of you guys. To answer your question Tyson did mainly face bums. I’m done responding

 

I'm not exactly the world's biggest Tyson fan (he beat up my favorite fighter, past it or not). But I fully recognize the cyclonic brilliance of his prime. His attack was one of the most effective in boxing history, his defense is ridiculously underrated. In the 80s he was unstoppable.

I'm not convinced about the bums part, to me he didn't face too many more than practically any other ATG. He fought who was available, and if he took some warm up or cool down fights big deal, he shares that in common with a lot of greats, especially punchers.

No disrespect intended.

 

Both klits, povetkin, ggg, Mike Tyson, ike

 

If Tyson fought bums, then Foreman padded his record in both careers with washed up bums.

Do you remember Unforgiven? He visits the forum on occasions these days. But he always responds to Tyson threads and never has a good word to say. It's unreal. You guys are both good posters but I've never seen a fighter get so much heat for his abilities inside the ring.

 

I think the excessive criticism on Mike's 80s reign is particularly strange. He was great, period.

For the rest of the board (to give perspective) my favorite fighters by far are Holmes, Foreman, and Ali. And I consider them, Joe Louis, and Holyfield to be far greater fighters than Mike (from an overall perspective). 80s Mike would have given them all trouble, though I don't think he'd win prime for prime.

 

I believe Tyson at his best should be favored or at least even money against any heavyweight. I can't favor anyone over him. Ali, Bowe and Lewis might be even money with Liston, Holmes and Foreman slight dogs. Next tier is Louis, Holyfield, Vitali and Wlad.

I just can't favor anyone against the 80's Mike Tyson. He was a hybrid machine at his best. Liston and Foreman had power but Tyson had speed to go with it. Iron Mike, RJJ, Sweet Pea, Camacho, SR Leonard, Hagler, Holmes, Fenech...these were my guys growing up.

 

He was a h2h monster, no doubt. His whole approach made him a seemingly unstoppable force.

It's just my dumb opinion that I don't see Mike's style working on some opponents. It says a lot that Mike beat really good boxers like Tony Tucker and Tubbs along with punchers like Bruno in the 80s. He was effective across a pretty wide range of styles. I just think the five fighters I mentioned above would bring their absolute best in the ring with his, and their absolute best could foil his way of fighting. But that's just my opinion, I'm fully aware it seemed in the 80s that Mike was on his way to becoming the next Joe Louis. Whatever specifically derailed that is up for conjecture. He was sensational.

 

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The answer is easy. Tyson. Still a great fighter though.

 

If you think Spinks, Holmes, Thomas, Holyfield, Lewis, Tubbs, Tucker , Bruno or Ruddock were bums you're either young or have little respect for boxers and their accomplishments. Very few boxers can say they have more than a couple legends on their record. Tyson has 4 on his record, beating 2 of them in his prime at least one of two losses being out of his prime. Legends(Spinks, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis).

 

Isn't that a contradiction ?

 

Mayweather
Marciano
Canelo
Pacquiao
Holmes

 

Mike Tyson is actually underrated these days.

Lennox Lewis is not overrated at all. He's rightly rated as a top 5 Heavyweight all time.