With 'Old School Soul' who would be the top five in each division today?

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    At the beginning of my post I'm ROFL at Sillakh, not at other peoples lists :good
     
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  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm a JuanMa fan...

    Bradley does not seem the type who'll do well at welter so he'd really struggle. Dyo know what, you could have Cintron above Berto in the 5th spot :think
     
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  3. Flea Man

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    I'd still rate this Shane over Cintron I think.

    Wait for Robs; Kell Brook behind Floyd at the top of the Welterweight rankings :lol:
     
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  4. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Shane is done.

    What about Margarito? If he can make Welter he'd give Berto a lot of trouble.
     
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  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Middleweight is a good opportunity to mix things up and **** off Sturm and Sylvester who are frankly not impressive in any way shape or form. If they fought serious competition they'd be shown up massively. Plus Pavlik is never going to fight at 160 again. So there are places for up and comers or 154lb'ers, the most deserving of which is probably Dzinziruk.

    Martinez
    Williams
    Pirog
    Golovkin
    Dzinziruk
     
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  6. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Heavyweight

    1. Wlad
    2. Vitali
    3. Haye
    4. Adamek
    5. Povetkin

    Light Heavyweight

    1. Hopkins
    2. Ward
    3. Pascal
    4. Dawson
    5. Froch

    Middleweight

    1. Martinez
    2. Pirog
    3. Sturm
    4. Pavlik
    5. Williams

    Welterweight

    1. Mayweather
    2. Pacquiao
    3. Cotto
    4. Mosley
    5. Bradley

    Lightweight (my knowledge of the lightweight divison isn't great ATM to be honest)

    1. Marquez
    2. Soto

    Featherweight

    1. John
    2. Lopez
    3. Gamboa
    4. Hasegawa
    5. Vazquez Jr

    Bantamweight

    1. Montiel
    2. Donaire
    3. Agbeko
    4. Mares
    5. Perez
     
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  7. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always fancied JuanMa to beat Gamboa TBH :yep

    In matching Berto up against Khan/Bradley (not that it's the be all and end all in ranking fighters), I think Berto's combined hand speed and power would take Khan out pretty early and I think his physicality and speed would see him beat Bradley, although it would be close IMO.

    I'm not big on Alvarez, but I think against the current crop of welters/light welters (barring Pac and Mayweather) he would do well.
     
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  8. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Heavyweight

    Wladimir
    Vitali
    Haye
    Adamak
    Povetkin

    Lightheavy

    Hopkins
    Ward
    Froch
    Pascal
    Kessler

    Middleweight

    Martinez
    Pirog
    Sturm
    Williams
    ????

    Welterweight

    Pacquiao
    Mayweather
    Cotto
    Khan
    Berto

    Lightweight

    Marquez
    Soto
    Katsidis
    Acosta
    Vasquez

    Featherweight

    Lopez
    Gamboa
    Nishioka
    John
    Vasquez JR

    Bantamweight

    Montiel
    Donaire
    Mares
    Agbeko
    Darchinyan

    Fly

    Pass
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Ishy; I also think Shane is done, I just don't rate Berto and Cintron that highly either (admittedly they are better than Mora) and think he would get 'em both out of there. I'm not massively inclined to argue either way, as I say he is done and they are very decent and not much else IMO. I favour Bradley over Berto, for sure.

    TFFP; I agree. Golovkin, NJikam, Williams and Pirog would all hammer Sturm and would round out the top five better than Sylvester.(who they'd also all batter)

    But one glaring omission: Keiji Sato :deal

    I'd fancy Nishioka and Hasegawa to fare better at 126 (Hasegawa has already impressed against an 11-20 guy) than Vasquez Jr or Poonsewat (is he even top 5@122 anymore? kinda lost track of that division recently) and couldn't see any of the 130lbers being in the top 5 Lightweights. I'd love to sat Uchiyama, but I feel he'd be ****ed against Soto, Acosta and Valero, let alone Katsidis and JMM.
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    Fair enough Kos, good post :good
     
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :rofl It's Koji Sato

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  12. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Berto's size would be too much for Bradley. It'd be a good fight but I'd back Berto to edge it.

    Berto and Cintron aren't great but they're solid fighters. But yeah, Mosley even two years ago would have smashed 'em.
     
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  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Would anyone fancy Lebedev against Povetkin, taking into account recent form?
     
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  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Size wouldn't be a problem for Bradley against Berto IMO. They have very similar builds, musclebound and stocky. Berto looks strong but he actually looked quite weak against Collazo up close. He's not tall either.

    If anything, its going to be the handspeed that is troublesome.
     
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  15. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd say Berto is a lot more "thickset" at welter and would impose himself on Bradley.
     
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