With 'Old School Soul' who would be the top five in each division today?

:rofl You're right it is Koji. But for the sheer fact I've been saying it so long, he'll always be Keiji to me

But seriously, I assume he just missed out on your Heavyweight list? Man is a beast, unlucky that he was suddenly struck down by 24 hour M.S against Sturm.

Ishy, I see your point exactly. It's not really worth arguing, past Pac and Floyd 147 is a pick 'em for a variety of reasons. I'd favour Bradley to be adaptable and durable enough to be able to outwork Berto, who would give a lot if oppurtunities for that stiff right hand counter IMO. Anyone with a nice uppercut will also tale Berto out, Id favour Alvarez to land some tasty shots on him and take him out. Bradley to beat him on points in a competitive fight, 115-113.

Cintron-Berto is a logical fight; still pissed it hasn't been made. Berto-Khan is a tricky one; I just lean towards your prediction. Not sold on Berto but his speed and (decent dig) as well as him being bigger, would see him take Amir out IMO. If Khan could use his advantages and pot shot him anything could happen, but I feel he'd be too open and would be too offensive, Berto catches him with something as he goes to pull out withhos hands down and he doesn't recover.

I'm guessing the consensous is that Bradley would make more waves at 147 than Khan? Or not?

On Margo I just don't think he can make the weight. He'd walk through Berto no doubt. Still not sure on Alvarezs toughness against a genuine Elite welter. I'm inclined to say 'if a blown up lightweight like Cotto can buzz him than Toni annihilated him.

 

Toni *annihilates him.

I don't see Berto being that imposing on Bradley. In fact, the more he tries to impose himself the more I see Bradley pulling away with it.

 

Some very good lists lad, good to see it wasn't so hard to fathom.

Surprised people haven't picked apart other peoples lists so much; Berto seems to be the biggest controversy.

 

I still ain't seen the fight. Was on Holiday when it happened, and still ain't got round to it.

I favoured Lebedev to stop him. Why ddnt he get it done and how did the fight play out stylistically?

 

I agree. But if Vitali can remain at no.2, Wlad can enjoy a Jack Johnson/Dempsey reign and defend once every couple of years in a 'super fight' when someone managed to beat Vitali I guess In this time off Wlad will have built up a mystique and the World Heavyweight title fight is an interesting proposition again

In all seriousness, I think Vitali would be fighting two or three times a year against the rest of the best. At his age, wear and tear and with his lack of big power, it's inevitable he'll get outworked soon, thatsomeone will walk right trough his awkward style. It'll happen before long in real life probably, so if he has to fight say, Adamek, Haye (who doesn't have a bauble to sell PPVs with anymore and has to man up) and Valuev, if he does manage to beat those guys he will surely be done physically. He'd also probably just about surpass Wlad whilst not actually being the Champ. Someone like Chambers then faces a shell and beats him.

Then all viable contenders get a chance at no.1 contendership and it's up to Wlad to fight more often and see how he pulls through. His fights would be more engaging if he genuinely held the '1' world title. Out of allthe weights, the glamour division would no doubt benefit the most from one belt.

A mix of hypothetical bollocks AND reality here; an in-shape Solis batters Vitali IMO.

 

I'd favour Williams to outwork Pavlik, busting him up by the mid-rounds. Late on Pavlik wouldn't be as effective. Pavlik would land some good shots throughout but I dot think he'd take P-Dub out. Pavlik did some good work at points in the fight with Sergio, but he'll never be right near the top again IMO, everything post-Hopkins was shambolic and he still lost very clearly to a guy he deliberately picked as the 'loser' of the first P-Dub-Martinez fight.

Pavlik very clearly avoided Williams. He got his comeuppance because Sergio, with time to prepare, was a 'proper' middleweight and beat him soundly.

A lot of guys around the eleven stone mark have made waves at 160. Martinez took his new weight class well, and now Sergei is making the move up. These two divisions would merge pretty seamlessly IMO, it's a fairly natural progression for most 'great' fighters that started at 154.

 

Anyone care to elaborate? I heard it was a robbery.

 

He has massive flaws, I'd favour Pascal to beat him again. I've never been impressed with 'Bad' Chad.

Did you see Huck-Lebedev? Give us a breakdown lad:good