with pac floyd not being made has ufc taken over boxing ?

Again Stoo, do you believe this to be true? Because simply doesn't allow you to excuse away big Tim or the legions of other American heavyweight champions who didn't draw.

 

Yeah...if you attribute the MAJORITY of the best PPV buys to ONE division out of dozens of weight divisions in both sports means Im wrong because Timmy didnt sell...nice one. And Ive edited that post where you claimed I was ignoring the fact that other weight divisions dont sell as well, as you have seemingly lost the ability to read...

You really need to quote me where I said ALL HW fights sell if you want to attribute that argument to me, because otherwise you are talking bull**** and are skewing what Ive said

bad form fella...bad form...:-(

 

I am finding this baffling Stoo.

First of all your list was wrong. The amended boxing list would have it 5/5 and the UFC list would be 4/6 against heavyweights.

You were the one who came into a thread about whether boxing has been damaged by failing to make the welterweight superfight to seemingly dismiss as a concern and suggest the focus should be on the fact that there is no American heavyweight champion.

Again you said that if both sports had a heavyweight champion business would be up across the board! How is it a distortion to think that means you were suggesting that all American heavyweight champions draw? You didn't leave a caveat for the existence of such fighters who wouldn't interest people.

I simply said that that's a bull**** simplification of reality. That plenty of American fighters don't draw as heavyweight champion, plenty of non-Americans have drawn as a heavyweight champion and plenty of fighters draw who are not heavyweights. You can't just say that business in either sport will go up because the heavyweight champion is American.

You kept arguing against these points so I assumed you were disagreeing with this. If you don't disagree with that then I'm sorry for misunderstanding your point because to me it seemed you were placing far too much emphasis on the weight and nationality of fighters.

 

Dew dew dew... For the LAST time...

I think Ive answered every point you've raised (more than once) and dismissed nothing. People, especially the casual fans, like to see big men beat each other up...More casual fans means more money = business going up...especially if it's an American or two...

may I make a suggestion

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Cool. Give me your address and I'll send you one.

 

Sweet, I'll send you a handbag for you too hit me with and save me the agony or repeating myself...

 

I don't really think boxing is in crisis and I don't think MMA is that overpoweringly huge internationally or they clash interms of followers. There is some corssover in terms of fans, but you are always gonna get hardcare and casual fans for both, they deliver very different things and there is a place for both. In some parts of the world UFC just doesn't appeal and vice a versa.

For me, I'll never be a MMA fan and my pedigree is Muay Thai.

I really struggle to watch MMA, cos I can't stand grappling etc. Don't get me wrong I appreciate and respect MMA just don't like watching, it just doesn't give me that same feeling I get with MT or say boxing. I've tried on many occasions to watch it since the late 90s, but I'm just way too into striking.

So to get back to the question some people like coffee, some like tea and some drink both. I think they appeal to different groups, so the comparison isn't valid. Of course there will be some crossover, but on the whole they are both here to stay and will be around for many moons to come.