With PBF gone, the Spotlight Falls Squarely on Kelly Pavlik

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Pavlik is a decent fighter but picking him over Calzaghe is a joke to be honest. For God's sake, Lockett didn't have trouble throwing and landing some solid shots at him, Calzaghe would be all over his face from start to finish. I'll be picking Calzaghe by late round TKO in brutal fashion. Let them prepare the blown up middleweight excuses starting NOW.
     
  2. Scar

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    Picking both Dawson and Johnson over him, far too experienced. I'm picking Calzaghe by brutal TKO in round 10, won't be surprised if the towel is thrown in the 7th or 8th as the fight appears to be more and more one-sided as rounds go. This guy needs to land a lot to seriously trouble Calzaghe and he's hardly sneaky nor fast to shock Calzaghe the way Hopkins did numerous times, he's FAR too predictable for a class A fighter.
     
  3. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, I saw the JC/Lacey fight. Foolish to make comparisons of KP & Jeff.

    And your entitled to your opinion on what would happen between KP & JC. Just can't understand why you or anyone can see Joe coming out alive in that fight. Joe may win 10 rounds on pts., but really, I see Kellys landing eventually late in the fight (maybe even early) & he will go down. He's shown he's well capable of doing that.
     
  4. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe's speed and movement will give Pavlik some difficulty but an easy fight for Calzaghe, I think not. Pavlik has the tools to give Calzaghe all sorts of problems as well.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Calzaghe could wipe Pavlik, Dawson, Johnson & Tarver out in the next 2 years, on top of his already established resume and they'd STILL say he did nothing and doesn't belong being ranked next to the generation's best.:lol:

    Dawson's got a glass chin and was unproven. Johnson's old, Tarver's old, Pavlik's a blown up MW who nearly got taken out by light hitting Jermain Taylor....

    ;)
     
  6. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go away.
     
  7. Caliboxing

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    Nah, that would be an amazing accomplishment and Calzaghe can make those fights happen easily if he wanted but the chances are slim.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Sorry, but your guy Adamek is even a much better fighter than pavlik and Dawson easily handled him. There is no way Pavlik would be able to do anything to Dawson, Dawson's even worse for him than Calzaghe because of his quick, straight counters that will have him reeling all over the ring.

    Dawson TKO 2-3.
     
  9. Scar

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    Hardly foolish, Pavlik is too slow and too one-dimensional for someone like Calzaghe. You're entitled to an opinion too though I think it's ridiculous maybe because you're a huge fan of his(understandable), Pavlik doesn't have the experience, speed and timing to catch someone like Calzaghe simply because he never met someone in Calzaghe's class. We're talking about a man who blocks punches with his head, keeps stalking(only style he knows) and throws a few slow straights and hooks, you think Calzaghe will stand there and allow him to land the way Taylor did?
    Only hope for Pavlik to land is if Calzaghe gets tired and I wouldn't be hoping for that, since the only time Calzaghe MIGHT get tired is after landing endless punches and even dropping Pavlik early, which means Pavlik won't be any fresh and full of power after eating that many shots either. One-sided fight for Calzaghe and I really hope they sign this because one thing that's ridiculous in this sport is when a bunch of fans go blind simply because they're "hardcore" fans who deny facts.
     
  10. Scar

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    What tools exactly?, I really want to know. I have seen a lot of Pavlik fights and hardly saw any "tools" apart from using his head as a defensive tool and being too one-dimensional and predictable with his punches. That's nothing dangerous for Calzaghe to the point where it's laughable.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Here's something that isn't easy for me.

    Taylor's got more chance of giving Calzaghe a fight than Pavlik, even though Pavlik won, Taylor's a better fighter. Taylor's superior chin also would allow him to hold up against Calzaghe a little longer than Pavlik would. Pavlik's chin is suspect.
     
  12. Scar

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    That's my point right there, you're just far too obsessed and refuse to see that one man is superior and the other is one-dimensional in hope of one big punch to finish things. Newsflash, Pavlik needs to land A LOT if he plans to stop Calzaghe and no, Calzaghe won't be standing still to allow it.
     
  13. Caliboxing

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    The difference is that to beat Dawson you have to take the fight to him, as demonstrated by Johnson. Adamek could not do this but Pavlik surely can.
     
  14. Hermit

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    ? Lowe was telling him that Lockett did everything they had planned for. These guys watch the films and do a lot of study.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Johnson was able to do it after taking punishment in rounds 2-4 and keeping the push forward, Johnson can do this because of a sneaky defence and an IRON chin, something Pavlik lacks on both ends.

    That's why Pavlik won't be moving forward very much against Dawson.