With time past, does Hatton's loss to Pac still look as bad as it initially did?

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  1. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    C) Clottey's

    Atleast the others (Hatton) went for it even if recklessly, but its easier to say after the Audley debacle
     
  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd swap it for Clottey's, Id rather see a fighter go out on is shield, try something, rather than that limp display (though I know you appreciated his work).

    As I said though, these are top draw 147, 154 guys, not a 140 man.

    Guys like Margo can't seem to shake Pac.
     
  3. Hullk

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    Everyone knew this was a danger, what got me was Ricky himself saying 'I know I need to stay behind the jab, be patient, and make my bodyshots count so we even things up by the later rounds'.

    So joyous was I in hearing these words of wisdom I forgot he was a headstrong idiot and watched with mouth open as he jumped at Pacman with his chin as high as the Eiffel Tower.

    As a footnote, the Pacman clone they'ev all had sparring said he sparked De La Hoya and Hatton out in sparring, saying it was obvious they were shot. He said Margarito was twice what they were in sparring and wouldn't budge. Fair play, he was right. Margarito was outclassed, but what a hard ****.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well he's twice the size so to speak.
     
  5. SuspiciousChees

    SuspiciousChees Active Member Full Member

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    Marg did almost drop him with a bodyshot.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It's definitely between Cotto and Margarito for best losing performances and Hatton and Clottey for worst. I'll discount the corpse of Hoya.

    Depends what you like, brainless aggression from Ricky or the timid display of Clottey who did infact take the least punishment of anyone because he has the best defence.

    Cotto boxed well with Pacquiao in the early rounds and was more competetive in those rounds than Margarito was at any point. However, the fight decended into farce once Pacquiao got on top in the late middle rounds and Cotto was on his bike. Margarito was mostly the same througout the fight, tough tough man got battered and had a few good moments and hurt Pacquiao more than anyone else. I'd go Margarito for best losing effort just because he never conceded ground and landed a few good punches including the body shot which cut Pacquiao down for a while.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a white wash.

    How much heavier was he on the night?
     
  8. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO, Cotto was in the fight for a while, in with a chance, then it all turned rather one sided.

    As much of a beating he may have taken, despite the wishes that his size might get him in it, I don't think Margo ever looked like having a chance of winning the fight from start to finish. His best moments were when he seemed to get pac on the ropes for a few moments, though I'm not sure if Pac welcomed this on himself. :huh

    I'd say Cotto put up the best fight.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm not sure what Manny was doing, he seems to like to take a few punches on the ropes in each fight. He did it against Cotto too. Margarito hit him with the best punch of anybody since Marquez with that body shot, Manny was definitely coming up for air. He didn't win a round though. Cotto possibly sneaked a couple, close ones early.

    But then Cotto started running and backpedalling and finally got stopped which kind of hurts him a little, since we're comparing losses here.

    Ah well, all nit picking really they all got smashed to pieces except Clottey who didn't put it all on the line.
     
  10. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    I think Ricky's lifestyle and all the times he'd taken a punch to land one caught up with him. His punch resistance was gone and, without a decent chin, he didn't know a way to fight Pacquiao which could possibly defeat him.
     
  11. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    TFFP, if you discount the corpse of Oscar, it's almost the same for Hatton.

    His resistance was minimal, as we'd seen against Lazcano.

    He had lost his back room team and Mayweather was a shocking choice of trainer.

    Pac as at his peak and Hatton miles past his.

    Personally I don't put much store in that fight, but it's still a knock on Hatton for falling into the career traps we've seen a million times before.
     
  12. Brummy1976

    Brummy1976 Guest

    Agreed, BUT hattons loss does look bad because he got flattened badly not broken down like all the rest
     
  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Losing to Pac no shame, losing the way he did was pretty bad and embarrassing though.

    Kind of reminded me how Bruno's career finished. The most disappointing fight of his career was the last one.