With Vitali's retirement soon to come. Where do you place him among the ATGS?

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  1. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    Where do you place him?

    Do you consider him an ATG even

    or just Hall of FAMER?

    Also if he gets beat by David Haye in the future, will that negatively effect his resume? Or is it acknowledged he's past prime.
     
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  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Top 25. Retirement hurt him.
     
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  3. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    He's not an all time great, although he'll probably get into the hall of fame, even though I don't necessarily think he's beaten enough top competition to belong in there either. Nevertheless, he'll make the Hall despite what I believe, but ATG no way.
     
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  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I'm also under the impression he has signed to fight his last fight, and it's not against Haye?
     
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  5. FelixTrinidad

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    It's against some ****** bum. But IF Haye beat Chisora, it will be too much pressure on Vitali. I think he will fold and give Haye a final fight.

    Probably get retired by David Haye.
     
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  6. DrMo

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    Top 25ish, cant rank him any higher than that as he doesnt have a single outstanding or career defining victory

    Anyone who thinks he's an atg H2H is an idiot, VitKlit lost against the 2 best opponents he faced
     
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  7. FelixTrinidad

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    What about his comeback win over

    Samuel Peter?

    won't that be considered outstanding ?
     
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  8. DrMo

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    Peter has a style that is tailormade for VitKlit, he was past his best, 250lbs & had been beaten by Wlad & Toney (imo)

    Its still his best win but, meh, not that impressive & Peter was never very good.
     
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  9. damian38

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    Top 20

    and yes, coming back from a 4 year layoff, without a tune-up fight and beating the current champion is an achievement worthy of notice
     
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  10. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    He will duck Haye.
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    VK will probably be best remembered for matching Lewis at the most opportune time but, despite a valiant effort, still losing.

    A three-to-four year retirement, after picking up the vacated WBC strap (W TKO 8 Sanders) and one predictable defence (W TKO 8 Williams), leaves a big gap after a very short reign, which has not been compensated for by his return.

    Not his fault that he’s in one of the flattest heavyweight eras on record but probably the reason he’s been able to comfortably come back and add to his retirement fund, in a run of fairly routine wins.

    His latest career doesn’t add a great deal to an already basic legacy.

    Vitali probably falls outside top-30 of all time.
     
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  12. KCD

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    :rofl........ Yeah course he will.
     
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  13. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly have no idea. I think Vitali is a great champion but his resume is **** poor but it's not as though it's his fault, it's just a depressingly bad era.
     
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  14. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    agreed

    if it was up to Vitali, he'd face Bowe, Holy, Golota, Lewis at their prime without hesitation, absolutely not his fault he had no real competition, he just fought the best opponents available
     
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  15. PityTheFool

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    He did all he could in the era he fought in,but as an ATG,I'd have him around a similar level to Tim Witherspoon and just behind Michael Moorer.
     
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