With Vitali's retirement soon to come. Where do you place him among the ATGS?

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  1. DrMo

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    One punch did all this damage that needed 60 stitches? Looks like more than one cut to me

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  3. Rico Spadafora

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    It was one punch that opened the huge gash above Vitali's eye. The ones below it are no problem and would/did not effect anything. Yes we all know Lewis won the fight. Never said otherwise. Kudos to him for cutting Klitschko.
     
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  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Beating him up? Old and shot? :lol::rofl:patsch

    Should we just award victories to fighters that are able to cut the opponent? I mean if that was the case Arturo Gatti would have had 20 losses. Your post is full of excuses and woulda, shoulda, coulda, like Merchant told Lennox after the fight we don't know what would have happened if the fight went on. :patsch
     
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  5. moneypaysbills

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    Did any of Gatti's cuts need over 60 stitches? It is no run of the mill cut. It is possibly one of the worst seen in boxing. The tide had turned and the alternative realities are meaningless all we know is that he lost because he was beat up to the put where half his sight was at risk, he was hugging more than a family reunion and has a legacy based on beating corrie sanders and a Sam peter ruined by Wlad.
     
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  6. klimting

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  7. FelixTrinidad

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    Wtf. Did you even watch the fight? Or you spewing random bull****.

    Most 'CHIN Checkers' even lay off Lewis, they know what's up.

    Vitali won 2 clear rounds against a fat corpse Lennox.. wtf are you babbling about


    Lewis won 2 clear rounds - VITALI WON 2 clear rounds.


    two are highly debatabe, 60% of Press Row got them for Lewis, judges don't mean ****.

    You want me to link the Press Row scoring by USA Today, La Times and NY TIMES?

    Just ask for it. They all got the fight even at the time of the stoppage.

    ONLY the judges got Vitali ahead. You can say 'yaya judges are what counts, but the judges gave Vitali a pity rounds because they could tell he was getting tkoed.
     
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  8. FelixTrinidad

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    No no no
    Lewis's accomplishment was not cutting Vitali, it was beating him up and having him hold on for dear life. Vitali may have been ahead on the cards but he was gonna get KTFO. Lewis was old and shot and it is an achievement to cut someone so bad they needed dozens of stitches and had to quit by proxy. ""



    Great Post man, except the sad thing is HE WASN'T EVEN AHEAD ON THE CARDS according to the vast majority of press row scoring. LMFAO.

    It was only the judges that gave him one more round.
     
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  9. FelixTrinidad

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    You can't rank people base on H2H

    Abilities.


    If that is the case, a serious shout can be made for

    putting Prime Lewis at #1 and Prime Tyson at #2 or #1
     
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  10. JeanPaulValley

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    He never beat anyone great. He quit once against Byrd. Old Lewis beat him.
    In his comeback he fought inexperienced guys and guys not deserving of a title shot.
    Why Sosnowski? Why fight ancient Briggs?
    Vitali has an overrated chin,overrated power and that's that. He is #101 on the ATG list.
    He should be no where near Ali,Foreman,Holyfield etc
     
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  11. darling dame

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    I gotta put Vitali up in top 5,true lost to LL ,but is that a shame? record man record!!!
     
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  12. antonio8904

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    this...^
     
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  13. moneypaysbills

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    Good point man, although that fight was never going to the cards if it continued
     
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  15. Vladimir23

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    FACTS about Vitali Klitschko
    - He is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time

    - WBC heavyweight champion of the world

    - Has never truly lost

    - There is no blueprint to beat him

    - He is unbeatable

    - Statistically most dominant fighter of all time

    - He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced

    - 46 have tried and 46 have been dominated

    - Has never been behind on the scorecards

    - Has never lost more than 2 rounds in a fight

    - Has never been down

    - Has made 12 title defenses

    - Greatest Heavyweight Champ KO% of all time

    - Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing

    - Vitali is 41 and is still dominant HW champ

    - Vitali beats any HW from any era
     
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