Witherspoon of the Holmes fight VS the following

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    The Spoon that fought Holmes was his best performance.
    Take that Spoon against prime Tyson Holy and Lewis.
    Do u give him a chance??
    I definatly do but im sure im in the minority here.
    Thoughts?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He wouldn't be favourite against any of those guys prime for prime, but there are times in the career of each when, at his best, yes, he would beat them. Right place right time type stuff.

    Of course, Spoon made a habit out of being in the wrong place at the wrong time...
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'd give him a " chance" and in truth he'd probably give those guys good fights. But at the end of the day I think they all prevail against him.. The Holmes who fought Witherspoon was waning and past his prime, and very likely took Spoon for granted.
     
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  4. Frankel

    Frankel Active Member Full Member

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    If McCall and Rahman can put Lewis to sleep just think what The Spoon would do to him.. Bruno at the tail-end of his career gave Lewis fits, so i see Terrible Tim taking care of business.

    Tyson would be too fast for Tim and Holyfield would edge out a points victory similar to how he beat Holmes.
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes he certainly did. He also never got in that kind of condition again
     
  6. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that the Bruno fight is his best performance ! Holmes is second best
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He would lose to all three at their best. I pondered him having a decent chance against Holyfield but i think he's just too busy for the Spoon.
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Witherspoon K0 10 Holyfield
    Witherspoon KO 4 Lewis
    Tyson W12 Witherspoon
     
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    He could beat all of them.
    These are 50-50 type fights. Perhaps better than 50-50 for Witherspoon against Lewis.
     
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  11. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes is Tim's signature performance and, at this stage of his career, Larry was having trouble with a few second tier fighters. The Witherspoon performance, and the close call, wasn't that anomalous by then for Larry. Tim never hurt Larry like Snipes did and this was Tim's best night.

    I think he gets a lot of credit for being a bit unproven insofar as he was never really exposed over a series of fights but that was partly because he went missing after a loss. And when he was humiliated by Smith, well, that was all King's fault. Tyson was just as messed up by King and, while he got outclassed by Douglas, his showing compared to Tim's vs Bonecrusher, speaks volumes for the true fighting spirit that Tim, for whatever reason, never really showed.

    Yes, the Spoon might have had a good night vs any of these three but basing it on a dispassionate view of what he actually was, not what he could have been, it's unlikely. He'd have found a way to lose. Holyfield and Lewis were too consistent, for sure. Tyson was less consistent long term than those two but still more so than Tim ever was and had an x factor Tim never had. In my opinion, wins for ...

    Lewis Pts 12
    Holyfield Pts 12
    Tyson (1988) KO 3-6, (1991) Pts 12
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tim easily beat Bonecrusher in '85. His head was clearly not in the second fight. His ongoing dispute with King has been well documented.

    Lewis was not consistent. He had off nights.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    That is one fantastic post. I tip my hat.
     
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  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I think he is the rare fighter that matches up well against Lewis with his defense, chin, strength and viscous overhand right .. I think Tim at his best is a very tough match for Evander ... who knows w Mike ..
     
  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Tim Witherspoon was 37-3 when he faced (and lost a split decision) to Everett Martin in 1992.
    He was aged 34, out of shape, and had been professional for 13 years.
    He won his next 8 fights until losing a split decision to Ray Mercer at age 38, 17 years after turning pro.
    Making him 45-5.
    It was only after that he fell off badly.

    Not really that inconsistent.
     
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