Without PED would Evander Holyfield have been as successul in the heavyweight division as was?

This thread is made with the assumption he for sure took peds. He was always a guy who was in shape and who worked hard. Very unlike many heavyweights who came in overweight and undertrained. Look at the 1980s and one fighter who symbolized the typical 80s fighter. Tony Tubbs. Or Witherspoon, who was good but inconsistent. Evander working hard and always fighting that top level gives him an advantage. He was always a mentally strong fighter.

 

Of course not. Posters assuming he would've done better without them don't know what steroids are. And never took them either, obviously.

 

So what, most were still heavier than him in reality as well......

 

Yep, your hero Mike wouldn't have been half the fighter without those pricks in his ass.....

 

How did Joe Louis manage to fight Rocky Marciano at 75 years old.......

 

No he was 137 Wass. Eddie Murphy corrected himself twice. And note that he merely added a neat 100 years to reality!

But there is NOT decent evidence about how many/what percentage used.
And who dabbled or who rebuilt their physique with it.
There is no real evidence Tyson used PEDs.
Saying he may have can apply to anyone. His behavior & size & problems from very young show you need not have drugs to account for him.

I agree with InMemoryofJakeLaMotta.
He loses most of all of the biggest fights at a max of 190.
The bulk & strength & punch resistance is more important than speed & work rate.
Especially for an unreformed, habitual, though Heroic brawler like Holyfield.

 

Other way around. Bowe was too big and too good.

 

Tyson weighed less than 200lb aged 17, in less than a year he was weighing upwards of 220lb. Those vitamins in the Catskills must have been some good ****......

 

With the neck exercises he did and whilst taking all those vitamins then sure.

 

He shows over developed traps, and has been linked to mulple PED busts. From the evidence I've seen, he's as likely to have been clean as Lance Armstrong

 

Have you taken them?