Witter had an off night

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  1. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Sometimes it dumbfounds me how people on this board fail to realize that sometimes a fighter has fights that are worse than others. Poeple have no trouble acknowledging that athletes in other sports can have an off night, but never seem to acknowledge that a boxer can have an off night without having something physically wrong with them.

    Last night, Witter just didn't look like himself. Yes, he clearly lost, and in some ways I'm glad he lost (I've liked Bradley as a prospect for a while now, and he seems like a good kid), but I still think that Witter wins that fight 8 times out of 10. It reminded me a lot of the Simms-Alcine fight, where the champ just looked tentative and sluggish compared to his usual self. Yes, that's Witter's style, but it's not Witter's style to not link up a combo all night long, or to throw only 10 punches in a round.

    Props to Bradley for getting the win, but I'm not sure it leaves Witter "exposed". Styles make fights, and when Witter is on his game (unlike last night), he'd still present huge problems for Hatton, who would get frustrated with his elusiveness.
     
  2. TAM83

    TAM83 Active Member Full Member

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    Witters problem is though he has too many off nights.
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    This guy wanted to put himself up there with Ricky Hatton ... a status which he has yet to reach.

    Ricky Hatton lost fair and square to PBF ... there was no off night ... I don't believe in creating excuses for fighters when they lose ... an off night doesn't take away from the fact that he lost.

    To make things worse he was hyping himself up by calling out Hatton and a relative unknown came over to England (his home turf) and took his title away. That shouldn't happen that often ...
     
  4. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    He seemed to think that he performed well.

    Losing does not = off night/past prime/lax/shot/not concentrating etc

    It means that you lost.

    I don't actually expect people to truly understand this but I feel compelled to post it.
     
  5. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    this is very true. But this is also true for many other individual sports. it is generally accepted that Basketball, soccer, football, hockey and other team sport players have off nights. But you hardly hear about golfers, boxers, tennis players, getting off of the hook for bad performances. I think it is especially so for boxers seeing as though they only fight a couple times a year and have months to prepare for one night usually.
     
  6. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    People fail to recognise that there are two people in the ring.

    The opponent has a say in how a fighter looks.

    He is trying to win, after all.
     
  7. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    So by definition, having "off nights" is a weakness of a fighter's fighting ability.
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Golfers and Tennis players aren't taking punches ... and boxers especially have to be more discipline than other individual sports athletes ... you can't afford to have a bad night ... you have to take every opponent the same way every fight and prepare to the best of your abilities.
     
  9. mofo2

    mofo2 Active Member Full Member

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    Junior is a good fighter thats all and I don't think he had night off myself..he was out performed and given very little room to throw his shots from angles and suffered for it...........it was the typical case of the contender doing his homework, and then executing the game plan to the letter...Bradley deserves al the credit...full stop
     
  10. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    This is true my Southwest Michigan friend, I was more refering to how off nights by atheletes are accepted by fans.
     
  11. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    could be, I think "off nights" can be a reflection of a fighters mental state. You VERY RARELY see a fighter who is known to have a good head on his shoulders have an off night. A truly great fighter may start off with an off night, but then adjust and improve and withhold their greatness.
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

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    Yeah ... no one wants to admit Tiger Woods having an off night and are so quick to say that he gave a championship away rather than him being off his game.

    There's no realistic way that Bradley shouldve been able to come over there and get the decision ... in Witter's home town ...

    Witter has a very awkward style and I don't like watching him fight ...

    I checked out the fights against Chop Chop and Harris ... now Bradley ...
     
  13. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Ya I am yet to see Witter fight, but from the sounds of it it looks like something that shouldn't be too high on my to do list.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    One of the best boxing quotes I had ever heard ... the great fighters do adjust ... the do improve as the fight goes on ... and they do hold on to their greatness.

    Rather it be surviving knock downs ... slow starts ... injuries ... being overwhelmed by an unfamiliar style.

    Great quote :good
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A good boxer, even having an "off night", should have still won that fight at a canter.