Wlad and Haye defining fight ! ! ! ! !

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Black2023, May 11, 2011.


  1. Black2023

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    Lets get on thing right, this will be the best fighter that Wlad has ever faced and that goes with Haye too.

    Wlad resume is impressive but when you look back at his opponents and truly think about it, then Wlad really needs Haye. If all his opponents carried the same body fat as Haye or Wlad himself which both are around 8 to 10 per cent BF then in reality they would be this weight-

    S. Peter 6'1 Big puncher but a plodder (20 pounds overweight) 220 pounds

    E. Chambers 6'1 good boxer but no punch (20 pounds overweight) 188 pounds

    R. Chagaev 6'1 good boxer/punch but a plodder (15 pounds overweight) 209 pounds

    H. Rahman 6'2 1/2 big puncher but way past it and a plodder (9 pounds overweight) 235 pounds

    T. Thomspn 6'5 good boxer no punch (good weight) maybe could lose a few pounds but in reality he was in good shape at 247pounds

    S. Ibragimov 6'1 good boxer no punch (Could lose another 10 pounds) 209 pounds

    Lamon Brewster 6'1 1/2 good fight but poor boxer (good weight) 228pounds

    Ray Austin 6'5 average boxer and puncher (could lose 20 pounds) 227 pounds

    Calvin Brock 6'2 decent in all areas (good weight) 224pounds

    Chris Byrd 6'0 1/2 top level boxer no punch (good weight 213 pounds)

    His last 10 opponents - majority have come in overweight
    Short Plodders - 4 S. Peter, Chagaev, Rahman, L. Brewster
    Good boxers no punch - 4 C. Byrd, Ibragimov, Chambers, C. Brock
    Tall boxers - 2 Ray Austin, T. Thompson
     
  2. Black2023

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    David Haye Resume at heavweights-


    T. Bonin 6'1 1/2 (Journeyman) (Lose another 10 pounds) 221pounds

    M. Barret 6'3 (top level journeyman) (lose another 10 pounds) 215 pounds

    N. Valuev 7'0 (good boxer, big chin, no punch) (could lose 30 pounds) 280pounds

    J. Ruiz 6'2 1/2 (arkward boxer, with good chin, no punch) could lose another 10 pounds) 221 pounds

    A. Harrison 6'5 (decent boxer, mentally fragile) good weight - 253 pounds


    So in conclusion if all 15 opponents of Haye and Wlad actually had the same BF as both men, then your talking alot of overweight boxers.

    Both men need each other badly.
     
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  4. HAYEDAJOKE

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    Lamon brewster is 10 times the man and fighter Haye ever will be
     
  5. HAYEDAJOKE

    HAYEDAJOKE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pretty stupid thread

    chagaev is a CW now? fought is whole carrer at HW, beat savon twice in the early days and your telling us that chagaev could lose the other 9 pounds according the the weight master here ( you) and fight at CW? Chagaev had an outstanding amateur carrer at HW and super HW won gold etc. but his over weight too you? You know man .

    and a 240 peter is pretty ****ing good compared to 265 when he fougth chambers!

    This ****** thinks a 227 HW can just lose 20 pounds

    I weight 228 in decend shape and theres no way in hell i can just lose 20 pounds like you get rice and water for 4 months.

    Wlad fought every HW contender to world could give him. Haye hasnt. He decided to go fight big nick for the worst HW in the last decade. Big nick ( who lost the holyfeild)

    I dont like haye at all but you trying to made them equal or what ever your doing is just plan retarted man. Haye last 3 fighst have been sad man. The A farce was a disgrace what ws he ranked like 6th in england?

    and Ibragimov should of lost the other 9 pounds and fought at CW too? didnt he made his whole carrer at HW and won silver at the 2000 Olympics but your the expert.