Wlad gets severely underrated in H2H matchups

Louis has beaten bigger and heavier men than Wlad.

Louis punches Vladdys final ticket. No need to even go there.

 

Abe Simon, Buddy Baer and Carnera?

Bigger and heavier don't mean much...gotta have the skill behind it, which Wlad does.

Most of JL's opponents weight started with a "1", not a "2".

We are talking about 60-years of sports evolution. 60-years!
Could the NBA teams of 60-years ago compete against the best today?
Could the track stars of 60-years ago compete against the best today?
No and No.

Wladimir is just too big, too strong, and most importantly too talented.

 

Yet that's still a better level of opposition than Wlad has beaten.

Who was Wlad's best win? Byrd, who while good had the wrong style to ever beat Wlad and can't compare to even a 38 year old Holmes or Spinks. Or perhaps Peter who was wildly over rated and would have lost to Tucker and Holmes and even Spinks.

Yes Wlad does get under rated in H2H matchups, too many people seeing the losses to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster and thinking that was anything remotely like prime Wlad now. But against most of the greats he'll need more than his jab and grab tactics to come out on top.

 

Depends on what perspective you take.....If you take stars from the past, warped them to this time and gave them all the available "advancements" todays athletes have at their disposal, the greats would still be greats. Talent is timeless. Hockey players used to have skates that were like wearing a brick compared to today, used wooden sticks, skated on shitty ice....you tell me Bobby Orr wouldn't be a stud today with todays stuff? Of course he would. Would Mickey Mantle be a stud today with smaller parks, a tighter wound ball and advanced training, nutrition and physio? Damn right he would. Would Ali benefit from all these advancements in training, nutrition, medical treatment, pharmaceuticals? He'd still be damn great, maybe greater. Human beings haven't evolved that much in 60 years. Sports science, nutrition, a deeper pool of talent to draw from, and investment in the athletes? Yes.

 

1986-1989 Tyson has never seen a fighter like 2006-2012 Wlad Klitschko. And viceversa.

Tough call.

 

I feel badly for Volo. Because I know how brutally Adamek is going to knock him out. :verysad

 

I don't like Wlad's chances against Tyson and Lewis, but I'd favor him against everyone else. Even Ali.

 

I think he's rated just fine, he suffered a brutal ko loss to the only dangerous come forward fighter he ever faced.

Tyson would brutally murder him

 

I'd hardly call him a Mike Tyson.

 

Tyson had zero trouble with tall boxers. Zero. He KO'd 2 guys who were 6'6. KO'd one guy who was 6'5. Out boxed the huge Tony Tucker winning every round but maybe one. Tyson lost to Douglas in his prime. That's it.

Wlad can't brawl,can't fight on the inside,has very bad punch resistance and is very cautious. Tyson would KO any Wlad inside 4 rounds.

Sloppy slow Wach hit Wlad 3 times and Wlad looked shot by the end of the fight.

 

Foreman stops Wlad in 3-4.

Ali? Come on! Ali is gonna beat Wlad from pillar to post and win by late TKO.

 

Tony Tucker was 6'5" and was a really good fighter in his prime.
Tyson beat Prime Tucker every round. And Prime Tucker was a strong puncher with a good chin.
If Tucker was around now he'd be undisputed HW champion.

 

I don't see it that way.

 

Tony Tucker also faster than Wlad.

 

Foreman wouldnt kill wlad too.

Imagine the effects of a Foreman hook on Wlads chin