Wlad glass chin?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VG_Addict, Apr 29, 2017.


  1. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    Your post comes off like the usual "hater" drive-by, but there is some actual relevance to it.

    It was indeed Wladimir's Chin that kept him from hearing the final bell tonight. He took some solid shots in there after Joshua got his wind back very late in the fight, but it is because we aren't used to seeing him even being hit cleanly at all that people are beginning to overrate his actual punch resistance.

    What Wladimir has is heart and pride. He refuses to stay down -- you have to keep him there or close the show. Even hitting him cleanly at all has been an almost insurmountable task for the vast majority of his opposition, despite the number of times he's actually hit the deck over the course of his career.

    Vitali ate an even more savage uppercut from a harder (true one punch KO guy) in Lewis. How Vittles remained upright is still the subject of many a discussion to this very day. Yet Wladimir, got caught with a legitimately brutal uppercut from a "slightly" lesser one shot KO puncher (so far) in AJ, but it ended up being a shot he'd never recover from. He even went down in an "almost delayed" reaction, since Joshua was having trouble following the shot up before Wladimir went to the canvas.

    This seems like a slight, but it isn't. If Wladimir had a better Chin, he definitely makes it through this fight without hitting the deck. Joshua really didn't land that many clean power shots on him until the 11th... and that solid uppercut he finally managed to land was pretty much what brought an end to the fight.

    Because most people aren't used to even seeing Wladimir eat solid punches at all, his actual ability to cope with getting hit "flush" is being overrated a bit here. Still, he gave a good account of himself and was fit, focused, and prepared to win... despite falling short.
     
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  2. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When it comes to chins, there are fighters who look unfazzed when hit on the face and there are fighters who panic when hit on the face. Wladimir looks uncomfortable when hit on the face. His opponent gets encouraged. I would say it is not pure glass, it is definitely better than always given credit for but is still susceptible to ruthless pressure.
     
  3. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It has always been china. Look how easily Joshua executed Wlad as soon as Wlad got a little tired. Joshua has no speed and little power, and he was knocking Wlad around the ring like a rag doll. Joshua could have done that anytime in the second half of the fight.
     
  4. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When I say "mental or physical" in regards to his chin I wasn't questioning his heart, because he has always answered the bell. I was saying mental because in the Brewster and Williamson fights he seemed to lose a mental tug-of-war with himself and didn't seem to have any self-confidence (entire Williamson fight, and when he couldn't just walk over Brewster.) He's never been sparked straight out so it's not physically atrocious, though he does seem to be hurt pretty easily when hit so it's not physically great either. I think balance issues and running out of gas in some fights played a role in him being labeled glass jawed, but it all depends on what the parameters each person has on what they consider a glass jaw and not. The term floored has a 120 page thread spanning how many years.

    Regardless of what I say about him he's always gonna be smarter, more athletic, and wealthier monetarily than me and probably a better person than me, and he will never be on an internet forum doing the opposite to me because he's a HF heavyweight champ in the worst case and I'm a nobody typical 9-5er.