Wlad Has an Incredible Record Quailty Wise

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A lot of talk about Wlad and how his record only reflects quantity. With 18 defenses--third of all time and climbing--there is no denying that, but the haters like to attack the quailty of his oppenents. Lets bust that by posting the 3 most notable wins of his best victims.

    You may disagree with the three I pick. Also, age, injury or bad decisons may come into play--which we can say about every great fighter's wins. But all said and done, this is an astonishingly good record by any Standards. Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Jack Dempsey, and any number of others would be very glad to have these wins.

    Byrd- Holyfield, Vitklit, Tua !!!!
    Povetkin- Byrd, Chagaev, Chambers
    Chageav- Valuev, Ruiz, Mehan
    Ibragimov- Holyfield, Briggs, Whitaker
    Haye- Valuev, Ruiz, Barret
    Pulev- Thompson, Ustinov, Dimentrenko
    Thompson- Solis, Price, Krasiniqui
    McCline- Briggs, Whitiker, Grant
    Peter- Tony, Maskaev, McCline
    Chambers- Peter, Dimenkreko, Brock
    Jennings- Spzilka, Perez, Liakovich
    Barret- Tua, Guinnn, Witherspoon

    And just so no one thinks I am padding things, lets include some over the hill champs and why they were still good wins:

    Mercer (6 fight win streak at the time)- Witherspoon, Morrison, Damiani

    Brewster (1 fight removed from championship)-
    Liakovich, Golata, Wladklit

    Rahman- (4 wins and a draw going into figth)- Lewis, Sanders, Barret

    Wow. A lot of guys who earned their shot with good wins. Guess Wlad has beaten some tough customers after all.
     
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  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Extremely underrated resume. Lots of very good wins over prime contenders.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wlad's very underrated recent record.
    12 Opponents Undefeated, 12 with only 1 loss
    Bryant Jennings Undefeated 19-0 Wins over Perez, Fedosov, Szpilka and Byarm
    Kubrat Pulev Undefeated 20-0 11 KO's
    Alexander Povetkin Undefeated 26-0 18 KO's Has since stopped Takam and Charr.
    Francesco Pianeta Undefeated 28-0 15 KO's
    Mariusz Wach Undefeated 28-0 15 KO's
    Tony Thompson 31-1 19 KO's His 1 loss was a 4 round UD, Wlad stopped him twice. Stopped Price twice.
    David Haye 25-1 23 KO's
    Sam Peter Undefeated 24-0 22 KO's
    Eddie Chambers 35-1 18 KO's
    Ruslan Chagaev Undefeated 25-0 17 KO's
    Sultan Ibragimov Undefeated 22-0 17 KO's
    Calvin Brock Undefeated 29-0 22 KO's
    Eliseo Castillo Undefeated 18-0 15 KO's
    Chris Byrd 32-1 19 KO's 1 KO loss to Ike, Wlad beat him twice.
    Fabio Eduardo Moli 30-2 16 KO's, Never stopped Wlad stopped him in 2.
    Ray Mercer 31-4 22 KO's Losses were to Lennox, Holyfield, Holmes, Ferguson Wlad Stopped him in 6
    Monte Barrett 23-1 13 KO's Wlad stopped him in 7

    Wins over undefeated opponents
    Only 6 of Ali's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 3 of Frazier's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 12 of Holmes' opponents were undefeated, 4 with 1 loss.
    Only 4 of Norton's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 7 of Vitali's opponent were undefeated.
    Only 7 of Tyson's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 7 of Foreman's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 2 of Holyfield's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 2 of Louis' opponents were undefeated.
    Only 3 of Marciano's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 4 of Lewis' opponents were undefeated.
    Only 7 of Bowe's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 2 of Liston's opponents were undefeated.
    Only 6 of Charles' opponents were undefeated. He lost to 4 of them.

    KO's
    Foreman 68
    Wlad 53
    Louis 52
    Charles 52
    Holmes 44
    Tyson 44
    Marciano 43
    Vitali 41
    Liston 39
    Ali 37
    Frazier 27
    Norton 33
    Bowe 33
    Lewis 32
    Holyfield 29
     
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  4. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    GTFOOH.

    Wlad has not beaten a SINGLE heavyweight of note...
     
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  5. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has a great resume. Look at how many 0's he took and how many guys he knocked down, out or hurt who were never hurt before. He beat a prime byrd, mccline, Peter (unbeaten), ibragimov (unbeaten), chagaev (unbeaten), haye, povetkin (unbeaten), Thompson, Chambers, pulev (unbeaten). He took the 0's from quality fighters. Thats also way he never beat a HOf ( IMO byrd and haye will be in the HOF), because he beats the guys in their prime and they cant become Champion and great. He is now going to take out fury and wilder, both unbeaten. He is absolutly a top 5 heavy of all time. If he beats fury, wilder, povetkin again and Joshua or Parker he will be the number one heavy of all time for me.
     
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  6. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just count the win and lose record of his challengers from bis title reign and you will be shocked how great this guy in reality is
     
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  7. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    :good


    But Joe Frazier had 3 undefeated opponents IIRC, Foreman, Ali & Buster Mathis...???
     
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  8. CST80

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    It must have been a typo when I did the thread 6 months ago, 2 and 3 are awfully close on the keyboard.:conf Oh well, I'll fix it.
     
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  9. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    You have a "TWO" on your keyboard...??? I don't...now Ima jealous...!!!
     
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  10. yesihavearm2

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    What hurts his resume badly is that he didn't rematch his KO losses, getting his brother to his work for him against his daddy Sanders is one of the most shameful ducks ever.

    Hurts Wlad's resume a lot.

    Also his chin and stamina issues prevent him from being ranked highly at a H2H level. Imagine if Wlad was fighting in the Lewis era against guys like Bowe, Holyfield, Ruddock etc...

    It's a weak HW era end of story, yes some of the guys you listed are good wins, but the likes of Lewis would have been able to do it just as easy.
     
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  11. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    Wlad is easily a top 5 ATG Heavyweight. Honestly and realistically, if he had retired for a few years and let a few names become champs, before returning and blowing them away he would of looked so much better. His constant pace and domination has made him honestly look kind of bad because it gives him no noteworthy opponents, because he's put them all away and killed their name before it gets big lol. realtalk
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not that much.

    1) He did rematch one of them.
    2) He will finish with a much higher overall winning percentage than most "greats."

    But thanks for making a reasoned post unlike this **** who can't read:

     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deal

    I dont get why Wlad fans give him so much credit for Byrd who is a tiny ass HW and is really a LHW.
     
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  14. The Long Count

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    Maybe because he had a good pro resume a good amateur resume and Lewis dropped a belt rather than face him.
     
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  15. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very accurate
     
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