Wlad has become a defensive master... but......

All the moves that you describe are excersised in every gym in the country.. survival is part of the game , and if you had a flaw that could result in you losing the title (and the millions that come with it..) you would be self preserve by holding and being over defensive........... Wlad is a winner and continues to hold the title..

Protect yourself at all times..

 

It is hating.

Look at Lennox Lewis and the great Muhammad Ali, he was a master of holding and grabbing tactics. It is a part of boxing.

 

While I cannot stand abused clinching (ala Ruiz), the only fight W. Klitschko really overdid (Ruiz style) was the Peters fight, and should have been warned for that.

 

Holyfield did or does a lot of headbutting, HHop is also holding and grabbing, Sam Peters best punch is still the rabbid punch. Some illegeal moves have become a part of boxing.
Wladimir uses the clinshes if he has to, but he has not created a fighting style out of it like Ruiz did.

 

Why should Wlad have warned in this fight? Wlad clinched, okay, that is true because of this clinches he took some rabbit punches from Peter. And the ref. let the fight go. Clinching is not dangerous for the health of the fighters but rabbit punches are dangerous.

The ref. did not warn both fighters. It is professional boxing not mikado.

 

Wlad doesn't hold any more than most heavyweights. The big guy has his flaws (stiff, robotic, glass jaw) , but this is critisism he doesn't deserve.

 

Well, I just addressed the question of the thread that was specificly referring to Klitschko's clinches.


P.S
Peter should have been deducted points many times for his rabbit punches (Klitschko, Toney, Maskaev fights)

 

The great M. Ali and Lennox Lewis were very effective at this also...its not excessive like Ruiz , its just a part of the gameplan to wear there opponent down and stay out of danger . Not everybody can be a whitaker or mayweather and i dont think we will ever see Wlad fighting like James Toney either.

 

Its part of the game, but i wouldn't blame Wlad - its all the refs fault. The ref controls the pace of the fight when it comes to holding.

 

LOL @ Wlad being a "defensive master".

 

the ukrainian b hop

 

Holding is a violation of the rules...granted, the refs sometimes tolerate it, but it is nonetheless illegal, which is why the ref can and is supposed to call for the break.

WLAD should have been warned immediately with his Ruiz like tactics when he fought Peter, and he should have had points deducted if it had continued.

If WLAD did not hold in that fight, he would have been ancient history already...and should they fight again KLIT will show more of his "defensive mastery," by employing Uncle Manny's "Jab & Grab"

This does not make him a defensive master, anymore than Ruiz is a defensive master for his detested displays.

 

Get off Wlad's sack ffs.

 

He's no Brian Minto, thats for sure.

You would never see Minto figthing like that. Does he even know what a clinch is?

Minto is the opposite sort of guy- he will pick a legitimate punch or a defensive move NOT to use during a fight just to give his opponent a sporting chance.

That Brian Minto is a hell of a fighter.