Read what I actually wrote idiot. I said Wlad should have beaten Valuev. I say that beacuse it would have been an easy win and he'd have been THE champ. Since he was too cheap to do that now he has to beat Haye or Vitali to be the champ. Point is, the main thing stopping Super Wlad from getting a chance to be the legit champ is his cheap ass refusing to negotiate a fight with anyone but complete bums. ****ing ******ed.
Let's see here.....over 2 million to Povetkin (by way of purse bid), 50/50 with Haye....ya, what a cheap ass. I don't recall much negotiation with Wlad and Valuev (but perhaps there was...anyway I'm sure King wouldn't have allowed the fight, just like he stopped Vitali-Valuev)....Vitali offered Valuev something like 2.5 million a career high payday.
Valuev is not a bigger challenge than the rest of the bunch Wlad has taken care of, he would just look good on the resume because he was a paper champ and a huge guy. IMO Wlad beating Valuev when he had the belt, wouldn't be much better for him than the Ibragimov bout. The fight with David Haye is the only thing that makes sense for his legacy. BTW what is your definition of THE champ?
There was a purse bid of 2mn for a fight Povetkin had already made it clear he wouldn't take. Also, Povetkin has never been any kind of HW champ so WTF does he have to do with anything? He offered a **** deal to Haye where Wlad brought MAX 20% of the money to the fight but took 50% away. Unsurprisingly Haye told him to **** off. His BROTHER made an offer to Valuev. Nice argument dick head. :rofl:rofl:rofl He's not the Legit champ and he never has been. He knows what he needs to do if he wants to call himself the real champ.
Maybe if Holmes had an equally/greater talented brother that held the WBA most of his career who he refused to fight while simultaneously refusing to fight the holder of the other title he didn't have and also if the Ring belt and the WBO belt had existed and the IBF belt was 20 years old. In that case you're 100% correct.
no, holmes beat all the contenders in a division that will not be remembered as great. he didnt unify all the belts. wlad beat all the contenders in a division that will not be remembered as great. wlad has unified 3 belts, and would have the wba if chagaev didnt get stripped.
Well since every man and his dog knows Vitali really beat Lewis who was lucky to walk away with a technical win I guess by your startling logic that make Vitali the legitimate HW.
Wrong. Holmes held one of the two major titles of his day. Wlad holds 2 of the 4 major titles of his day. Looks like they're even in that department. Only problem is Wlad is a punk ***** with no big wins on his resume, multiple top guys he never beat, 3 prime losses to total bums and disgracefully unimpressive wins over many other bums. Holmes is an ATG. Wlad is not. Simple fact.
If by 'every man and his dog' you mean 'total ****ing ******s who know nothing about boxing and don't understand the concept of being stopped by punches', you are 100% correct.
3 prime losses? really? i say wlad hit his prime at the time of the peter first fight. when he overcame his mental blocks and actually ndug deep, and actually survived. wlad would have 3 belts where it not for politics. you say holmes is an atg. justify your claim.
So you say Wlad hit his prime when the division hit its all-time low and he was 47 fights into his career? :rofl:rofl:rofl Good one! Wlad's a bum champ compared to ATG Holmes. It's about skills, dominance inside the ring, resume, etc. I shouldn't have to explain this to you and I'm not intersted in arguing consensus facts. Holmes has Wlad beat in every department other than height.