Wlad has *never* held THE legitimate HW title

Povetkin was #1 ranked contender, and had been calling Wladimir out for the past few years...with the bus billboards, etc. When he realized just how good Wladimir is, he backed out.

Yes, I said it was VITALI who offered Valuev 2.5 million.

20% of the money?? Wladimir routinely sells 40k+ seats for each fight. He's made what, 9 straight title defenses. And, HAYE was calling Wladimir out with those stupid shirts, the escalator incident, etc....

50/50 was a GIFT offer that Haye in no way deserved. Haye was publicly called out, and he still turned it down. Haye has turned himself into almost a joke by ducking both Wladimir and Vitali.

So what does Wladimir need to do, in order to be the legit champ? Fight two fighters who want no part of him (Haye, & Valuev)??

Your post is so far off base, part of me thinks you just believe all of that crap, and the other part thinks perhaps you know what you are saying isn't true, and are just doing it as a way to troll the forums.

 

You are an idiot. Wlad selling out a 40k stadium with 20 Euro tickets doesn't mean ****. No way in hell he makes much more than 1mn Euro for that. His RTL TV deal is apparently only worth a couple of mil per fight. That puts Wlad bringin in well under 5mn Euro total before he pays his bum opponent.

Haye sells **** loads of PPV's in Pounds you dumb ****. The Valuev fight did over 700k @ £15 a buy. That's over 12mn Euro just for the UK PPV.

Without Haye Wlad sells ZERO UK PPVs.

Haye brings at least 12mn, Wlad brings max 5mn. IN WHAT ****ING WORLD DOES WLAD DESERVE TO GET 50-50!!!!!!!!



Point is, your hero Super Wlad refuses to fight Haye unless he gets half of Haye's UK money cos there is no possible way that Wlad will ever be able to make this kind of Money for a fight ever again. Why would he fight Haye for 4 or 5mn when idiot germans will buy tix for Chisora and RTL pay him the same no matter who he fights. Wlad is as scared of risk out of the ring as he is in it.

You Wlad lovers are ****ing ******ed.

 

Well, now, not to take anything away from Haye but anyone can do at least 500k against one of the most popular sports heroes and actors of all time.

 

That's a great point. SNV v Ruiz II did over 100mn buys in the UK. The UK population is only 60mn but most people bought it twice.

 

One of the most idiotic posts I've ever read. Wlad is THE champion, Haye has continued to duck and take easier fights. Wlad has defended several times, and sold out stadiums....there's no way Haye even deserves 50/50.

 

Look at the numbers moron. Boxing is a business. Wlad's pride doesn't mean ****. If he's such an amazing star in Germany and his bum filled resume is so valid, why the **** can't he sell a PPV? Even Germans won't give him a PPV deal. The whole reason he's ****ed in these negotiations is cos he generates so little money in his home country Germany.

He's garbage commercially and he has no leverage at all to demand 50-50. If we're being generous we might say he brings in 30% of the total fight income. Haye is right to tell him to **** off. Wlad needs to get real and take the deal he deserves, and it's nowhere near 50-50.

 

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Your post is filled with so many errors, I'm not going to take the time to address them all, it's late. I just want to know this: What do you think would be a fair split for Wladimir - Haye....what percentage for each?

 

You have been owned you stupid ****. The numbers prove conclusively that Wlad doesn't deserve anything like 50-50. Pride and a deluded fanbase don't mean **** at the negotiating table.

 

The number of ******s in this thread is ****ing astounding.

 

Another stupid post...and you didn't even answer my question. What do you believe is a fair split? What percentage for Haye, and what percentage for Wladimir? Just give a number for each? Why didn't you answer this the first time? Perhaps because you know your answer will look foolish?

I will give you the UK, sure. The UK has a population of around 62 million.

However, Wladimir is much more popular throughout the rest of Europe, and of course Germany, whose population (82 million) alone tops the UK.
The Klitschko's are stars in Germany, they have various events, TV commercials, lots of sponsors, etc.... Haye has not reached the level
in the UK, that the Klitschko's have in Germany. Haye does not have 9 straight title defenses, and he does not deserve the larger share of the purse.

 

I don't have the real figures dumb ****. Based on the info available if Wlad gets 40% it'd be a ****ing gift.

The only way this fight happens is if Wlad's **** TV deal expires and he can somehow wrangle a 1 fight PPV deal for Germany. Then he should keep that trash and Haye keep the UK PPV. Wlad gets 75% of the gate if it's in Germany and worldwide income goes 50-50.

While Wlad has his weak as **** flat-rate TV deal this fight will never happen.

 

Just seen your edit....

You have no concept at all of how fights generate money and how business in general works.

Population figures don't mean **** if you have a flat-rate TV deal. Hugo Boss sponsorships don't mean **** or count towards the income of this fight. Wlad makes **** all money per fight. This is a fact and that is why he has to fight 3 times a year.

Haye will easily generate 12mn+ Euro in PPV money. With no PPV deal all Wald's money combined will not even add up to half that. This is fact moron. Stop repeating your ******ed arguments and accept it.

 

So you think it should be at least 60/40 in favor of Haye?

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I don't know what Wladimir got for Peter, but it was probably close to what it was going to be for Povetkin (6 million). I believe Tony Thompson & Ibragimov were 8 & 12 million.

 

This is why you're a ****. Your entire argument is based on the fact that you LIKE Wlad and FEEL he deserves 50-50. That is ****ing stupid and has no validity in the real world.

There are situations in boxing when an exciting challenger with big drawing power gets more than a crappy titlist who's garbage commercially. This isn't even that cos Haye holds a major belt.

WLAD DOES NOT DESERVE 50-50 WHEN HE ONLY GENERATES 30% OF THE FIGHT INCOME!!!!!!!