Wlad haters keep sobbing.... Klitschko crowned True Heavyweight Champion...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson paid Lewis to not fight him.

    This is how it went down. Lewis was Tyson's mandatory challenger. Don King was so sure that Lewis was gonna beat Tyson that he offered Lewis 13Million dollars if Lewis would give Don King control over his career. Lewis refused to give in to Don Kings demands, instead opting to go to purse bids which means that he would still fight tyson, but without giving Don King anything. Tyson got so scared that he paid Lewis 4 Million dollars to NOT fight him.
     
  2. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Seriously, I doubt that Mike Tyson was scared of any man, in his prime. Sérieusement, il craigniait personne la, à ce niveau la, t'a pas peur dep ersonne..
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Yea widdow was right Lewis turn down a fight to face Tyson lol.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    Pas Tyson lui même mais le monde qui gèrent sa carrière
     
  5. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Widdow maker is completely correct. In addition, Haye would have had his ass handed to him if he had been in the ring with Klitschko tonight. Many find Wladimir boring because they know the outcome before hand. understandable. he is simply unbeatable by what is out there right now. so settle back and enjoy or be bored by the ride.
     
  6. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Ah ok, pas de doute.

    How did you rate Wlad's performance tonight?

    9/10 for me.

    Impressive. Hit and not be hit.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Lewis took only 4 million to step aside. What math class did you flunk to make that figure larger than 13.5 million?:lol:

    Besides that... the point is that the fight was there for Lewis, and he declined it. You can't ***** down the road when the opportunity doesn't present itself again. Everyone and their mother knew that Tyson would fight Holyfield instead of Lewis after that.
     
  8. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah but to be fair would you rather have 4 million for doing absolutely nothing, or take 13 million in the knowledge that Don King would be robbing the **** out of you for the rest of your career, even if you won?

    Be sensible about this, look at the tales of woe from pretty much all the fighters King handled over the years....Lewis wasn't dumb enough to stand for it so took the easy money and waited.

    Also Tyson V Holyfield was a fight that had been on the back burner since 1990-1991 and at that moment in time generated far more money that Tyson V Lewis would have. Money talks....also don't forget Lewis had the devils own job getting Holyfield in the ring for the unification bout. I accept that it can be levelled at Lewis that he fought Holy and Tyson when they were past their prime but I don't accept that any of it was Lewis's fault. Take a look at his career, the man was anything but a 'ducker'.
     
  9. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've seen a great number of such posts by him....

    A haymaker is the slowest punch in boxing. Wlad has two good hooks, the long classic and a short one, he uses seldom because most folks after being hit by his jab, tighten up thier defence if they can.

    Oh, I forgot...a Jab's not a punch.

    And Wlad has height and reach, and a good jab and a straight right hand, two of the fastest punches in boxing, and Wlad has quick hands.



    In case you missed it, haye has the wrong build for boxing...such chest muscles do nothing for a boxer but eat O2, and cause his jab to chicken wing.

    I have the distinct feeling you would not know a chicken wing jab if it hit you in the ass.
    Answer if you can how many types of jab are there...if you knew that you would appreciate the jab and it's brothers, like George Forman, naming all his kids Geroge, Jab named all his brothers Jab.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    What I am saying is that Lewis turned down 13.5 million to fight Tyson. People can't go around and now complain that Lewis never got that fight. He had the opportunity and he took step aside cash instead. Now, had Lewis taken the fight with Tyson and beat him. There would be HUGE money for Lewis in a Tyson rematch. Then both Holyfield and Riddick Bowe fights could have been made with ease for Lewis.

    On a personal level... 4 million dollars to do nothing sounds great to me.:lol:
     
  11. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    To be fair, Chagaev couldn't do anything. He just had nothing for Wlad. Like Iggy, he was just way too small for him in general.
     
  12. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I see what you're saying dude, but Vitali was retired during all of that. What do you think would've happened had he been active and fought those same guys. Check out the Samuel Peter fight for an idea of how common opponents look between them.

    VK does have a claim to being the no. 1 heavyweight. He never lost his title in the ring and came out of retirement at age 37 to take it back from a man that many picked to permanently retire him again.

    You need to calm down a second and be more rational about Vitali here.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

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    Yes, there would have been huge money for him in a Tyson rematch and a match with Holyfield, but he'd have been under contract to Don King, and that's the point. Take a look at Holyfield and Tysons financial circumstances right now - these guys should be literally sleeping on money but they're up to their arse in money troubles. Tyson has gone on record as saying what a scumbag King is, as has Holmes, as has Ali, or at least associates of Ali. Lewis wasn't daft enough to get tied into King so he took the step aside money and waited for the sanctioning bodies to wake up and do their thing. I don't blame him for that - take a look at Lewis's financial status right now and compare it to Tysons and Holyfields and you'll see that his decision was the right one.

    Also I suspect this is the reason that WALDO and VITLAY haven't gone anywhere near Valuev, because King likes to demand options and he has his friends in the WBA that would enforce it. You'll notice that even a 'hater' like myself has never actually criticised the brothers for not fighting Valuev and you'll see I'm pretty consistent on this. King is a cancer on boxing and his death can't come too soon for me. If you get chance then read Thomas Hausers bio of Ali, you'll see what a piece of **** Don King is in that - it's a great read.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    You're a freaking idiot. So Lewis should accept 13 millions in which means he has to deal with don king for the long run? Lewis refuse and went TO THE PURSE BID YOU FREAKING MORON. After that Don King offer Lewis a step aside money so that Tyson can fight a bum fighter instead. But the wbc refuse so the wbc stripped Tyson and give the title to Lewis.
     
  15. tysonlewisbook

    tysonlewisbook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Tyson gave Lewis $4 million step aside so he could fight Seldon - with the promise Lewis would get Tyson next after Seldon. But after Seldon win, Tyson renegged on tht promise and vacated the WBC belt. Which Lewis won the vacant WBC belt vs. McCall.

    This is the 100% iron clad truth.