Wlad Haters...Will You Give Wlad Credit After Beating Haye? Post Here.

i think YOU should get a life ****ing NEWBIE

 

Well said!

Klitschko gets too much credit from some and not enough from others. The whole problem is he has the fortune (or misfortune) of being the dominant champion is an unusually weak division. If Klitschko had to struggle with a long list of tough opponents like Ali, then we would know for sure what he is made of.

 

I'll give him credit but I won't be saying this.

Haye has the tools to beat Wlad but nobody has seen enough of him against excellent competition to say that he's an exceptional heavyweight. That's what your phrase suggests.

Haye is a former cruiserweight without a great deal of experience at heavyweight and most fans seem to think he has a glass jaw.

Yet if Wlad beats Haye, it will be the best win of his career.

That's a terrible thought for Klitschko fans isn't it?

 

****ing hell!

I find myself actually agreeing with Madballster!

 

It depends on Haye.

Haye is a bit of an unknown who arrived in the heavyweight division with big flaws. He has made great strides in fixing his problems.

Sticking to a game plan Valuev.

Not throwing just power shots ruiz.

Cutting out the wild punches against Ruiz at the end of the fight. Haye was getting tired and was told to box by Booth. Suddenly haye had a decent jab was not having stamina problems. He concentrated on speed and landing and suddenly had no problems picking Ruiz apart and of course suddenly the power came out.

Haye when he finally threw a punch looked super quick against Fraudley.

I do not consider Wladimir a great fighter. I consider him a decent good heavyweight champ with a great trainer who makes the most of a limited style. He is very hard to rate due to the extremely poor heavyweight division.

If Haye reverts to being wild. No I will not give Wladimir great marks.

If Haye turns up with a great game plan and Wladimir beats him I will credit Wladimir.

If haye has Wladimir in all sort of trouble and Wladimir comes through it and wins, he will get top marks.

 

I will never credit Wladigrab Klinchko

 

It's not a terrible thing.

Haye has a very good resume.

Not only does he have a good resume, but has one of the best speed and power combos in the division for a while.

 

The egg chin will be smashed

 

Not comparing Wlad to ALi but since you seem to hate his clinches so much, how do you feel about ALI?

 

Klitchko fans love to make this argument.

Watch some Ali matches and then look Wlad clinhing Sam Peter 108 times during twelve rounds. I see some difference in their aproach

 

Personnally I don't think it's a bad resume but most of the Klitschko nuthuggers on here will tell you it's awful and that Wlad has beaten fighters who are tons better.

 

This is pretty much how I see it.

Wlad will beat the best cruiserweight going around. He really should win this fight 9/10 times. The once being him getting caught when he gets careless.

Haye is a very good (not great) cruiserweight. He's been dropped a few times, and really hasn't done a great deal at heavy. However, he's quick, can punch, and isn't bad at all.

He's done enough to get a belt though, and at least looked better than a few of the fat disinterested guys masquerading as professional boxers.

Vitali is fighting the second best cruiserweight.

 

what a shock:roll: