Wlad/Haye negotiations

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Jun 18, 2010.


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  1. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye is afraid of the pain Wlad will bring to him. Like a puma brings a dead fawn back to the pack after the kill. So too will Wlad feast on Haye. Get ready, it's pizza time, and Wlad is hungry.
     
    Boxfan1, Jun 18, 2010
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  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said I don't think Wlad is ducking him but I was proving that, if you choose to be pedantic, there is more evidence to suggest that Wlad is ducking Haye, than the other way around.

    One man has bent over backwards to make the fight happen. The other has only recently been interested.
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give me a worse contract than the three fight deal Haye accepted? I have a lot of respect for both Klitschko's but that was disgraceful. Haye recieved barely any money from them and was tied down for a long time.
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  4. CHEF

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    I am assuming you think Haye has bent over backwards
    what has Haye done to say "BEND OVER BACKWARDS"?

    Haye TALKED ****, got a deal..walked away, then walked away from vitali and has never looked back except to say "I want the Klitschkos".... Haye has done NOTHING to get this fight done... nothing at all and to say he has is crazy:nut
     
    CHEF, Jun 18, 2010
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  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There isn't any proof to say Wlad is ducking Haye but my point is, there isn't any to suggest Haye is ducking Wlad. It's all just rumour from fans and poor journalists at this stage. My point is, people should calm the **** down before labelling either man a coward.
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is where people like you fall apart because you can't be impartial, like I am.

    I'm a bigger Wlad fan, than Haye fan.

    Suprised you? Because, like 99% of the forum, I don't post biased nonsense to big my favourite fighters up?
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  7. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    answer me this:

    Haye has been saying he wants the brothers for 2 years now. He walked away from both brothers and got a belt which Booth said "will give us better bargaining position" well now they can book a fight for unification with NO OPTIONS....YET.......... it is not happening

    why is Haye not taking it? And dont tell me about CASH.. im tired of that excuse. A unification fight with Wlad will pay much much higger then a bull**** fight with harrison:deal
     
    CHEF, Jun 18, 2010
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  8. Hermit

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    Link? Don't bother. We all know there is none. To win a suit like this you have to have actual losses. There were none because Haye was just so damned replaceable they signed a replacement and the show went on. You can't even tell a half decent lie. So sad.....
     
    Hermit, Jun 18, 2010
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  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Accepting such a disgusting, degrading offer was bending over backwards, without question.

    On the other hand, what has Wlad done? Nothing. Just offered one terrible contract and made a video to create some hype.

    You say "Haye talked ****, got a deal, walked away" but you must know that this is very, very selective? Not one heavyweight in history would have taken the fight after Setanta went bust. Considering Vitali's history of pulling out of fights, I sense a lot of hypocrisy from biased Klitschko fans too.
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  10. Heavyrighthand

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    Its not that Haye has been *banned from speaking to the press*, but rather, that he has been *rendered speechless* by the Wlad video calling him out.

    LOL
     
    Heavyrighthand, Jun 18, 2010
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  11. Hermit

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    Says the guy that thinks mitt work is just for the cameras. :rofl
     
    Hermit, Jun 18, 2010
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  12. Hermit

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    Wlad has his tongue, his dignity, his manhood, etc.....
     
    Hermit, Jun 18, 2010
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  13. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    CORRECT.

    I was standing there when the Klitschko lawyer said "No need to see the medical. Chagaev stepped in.... no losses... lets just move on"

    Sooooooo. Haye was never asked for the medical papers (which he could have gotten in a day from any Haye doctor
     
    CHEF, Jun 18, 2010
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  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe Haye will take it? That's the thing: He's not accepted or rejected yet and, honestly, none of us know whether the contract is fair or terrible, again. We don't know what's happening, so we can't judge. I doubt it's 50/50 with go options.

    And, when he is STILL in negotiation with Haye, why has, in your own words, Wlad accepted a fight with Povetkin? They've only been ordered to negotiate, not fight. Why accept that, if he wants Haye, which is very much possible?
     
    Jack, Jun 18, 2010
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  15. CHEF

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    all insiders know exactly what haye did.. used the klitschkos as a way to get his name on the HW map. I give him credit. He was very smart. but the contract was for 38% to Haye... but haye wouldnt/couldnt secure the stadium in england... so Wlad did and then along with BOOTH. they re did the contract.... so just like you said.... things are not always how they seem

    38%.. is huge for a voluntary defence... and what did Haye sign with sourland/king?...ummmm...oh yeah... 3 fight option:deal
     
    CHEF, Jun 18, 2010
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