Wlad Hits Harder than Mike Tyson

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think that the reason Tyson destroyed the kind of guys quickly that it takes Wlad some time to methodically break down might have more to do with style than power. Tyson had amazing power, but his style was typically aggressive, and as such he tended to commit full power to a much higher percentage of shots thrown than Wlad.

    Wlad, because of the style he developed over the years to protect his whiskers, is much less apt to fully commit. When Wlad does fully commit, however, I think his power is on par with Tyson. It just has a different approach in how its delivered and and how often.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

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  3. Rumsfeld

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    Again, I think this stems more from styles than power.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Do you see the word "single" anywhere in that sentence ?

    I don't know how you scientifically prove this question one way or the other so I look at the effect it had on the fighters. Since Tyson tend to punch in combinations it's hard to say whether someone was knocked out with one of those punches, or more than one.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    Wouldn't say it's crazy but it's hard to quantify one way or the other.
     
  6. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how was it the corpse of larry holmes? no one had convincingly beaten him yet at the time they fought.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As much as i respect Steward he isnt any more qualified to make that statement than Kevin Rooney would be to say Tyson hit harder. Neither worked with the other fighter and a trainer is always going to up his ATG against another.
     
  8. plank46

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    this is the best answer in this thread.
     
  9. GGGIsABum

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    True, and more than that, you can't really trust what Stewart said because he had a lot of politician in him.
    For example, why didn't he compare Vlad's power to Lewis's when he was more familiar with Vlad and Lewis than Tyson.

    Anyway, hitting hard is really not as important as being able to set up punches, and prime Tyson was much better at this than either Vald, Lewis, or anyone else out of the Kronk gym.
     
  10. energie

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    go look at tyson botha ....thats all you need to know ..........and that was a shot to **** mike tyson
     
  11. Rumsfeld

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    He has addressed that many times, and has always insisted that Wlad had more one-punch KO power than Lennox.
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the problem with trying to compare raw punching power, its not always who can actually hit harder, but who can set their punches up better. Bigger men such as Wlad you would figure have the advantage, but ive still never seen a better puncher at heavy then Joe Louis...and im sure he wasnt a harder puncher over all, just a better puncher than everyone else.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

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  14. UniversalPart

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    Of course he does.

    He is 8" taller and weighs 40lbs more. He is also in condition all year around.

    Tyson is a better puncher though. Wlad hits harder. Both are getting out of there with one shot.
     
  15. ForemanJab

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    The question asked "who hits harder" is also intrinsically asking "who generates more concussive force with A blow" because combination punching is a learned skill apart from who can physiologically generate more power from a punch. If the question was about combination punching it would have stated it.

    The only way you can definitively prove who punched harder is if you had them both at the peaks of their prime in tip top shape hitting a sensored apparatus that registered the PSI of their hardest punch. Unfortunately such a test is not possible to conduct.

    However, a way this question can be analyzed further would be by making a quantifiable observation of comparing their KO% against other HWs(200+) and qualitative observation of how many opponents they KO'd who had never been knocked out/knocked down before. Klitschko is superior in both measures.

    As another poster noted we should also take into consideration the fact that Tyson was a hyper agressive fighter that was always launching power punches and gunning for a knockout and Wladimir is primarily a technical boxer-puncher with a more tactical patient approach. The fact that Wladimir still has a higher KO%(with 7 more career fights) inspite of this disparity in styles that would favor a more agressive fighter like Tyson further suggests that Wladimir is the harder puncher.