Wlad in the early 1930's ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Jun 3, 2019.


  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    29,056
    35,392
    Jan 8, 2017
    If Wlad came along undefeated at the start of the 1930s , just as Tunney had gone,how far does he get up until the emergence
    of Louis ?
    This is Klitschko before his two early disastrous losses. How'd you see it going?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,503
    27,039
    Feb 15, 2006
    He wouldn't be undefeated in his early career.

    In this era he has no amateur career worth speaking of, and has to fight under unfavorable circumstances early on.

    This probably leads to a significant number of early losses, but that is not so much of a problem in this era.

    Somewhere along the line, he hits his stride, and is taken in bay a decent promoter.

    Once he has got all of his ducks in a row, things play out much as they did in his own era.

    He has a significant period of dominance, perhaps looses at some point, but only age or Louis retire him.
     
    Bah Lance likes this.
  3. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

    463
    256
    Mar 1, 2019
    So many of this sill threads. But this is pretty much what you expect when you come to the Classic part of this forum. A bunch of old senile guys who still believe that any fighter from their sad child hood or before could compete against modern talented and size fighters. Wladimir Klistchko was stopped by modern sized heavyweights who had modern skill. Wlad would of destroyed every "heavyweight" from the 1800's up until the 60's in a round or two.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,122
    44,823
    Mar 3, 2019
    As his career played out or his absolute best for each big match up?

    He picks up more loses early on due to his chin, and before Steward he didn't have the best Defence, he'd then get to contender level and be around 2004/5 time and he'd probably beat Baer and Carnera. He'd be in trouble when he started fighting 15 founders coz he didn't have the best stamina over 12. Tho he'd waste far less energy against his much smaller foes.
    He faces Joe Louis.
    We get an amazing trilogy. 2-1 in Wlad's favour imo
    Wlad emerges as the best HW if the 30s and dominates into the 40s
     
  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    59,987
    79,998
    Aug 21, 2012
    Wlad gives them an ass kicking, imo. He's what Primo Carnera would have been had he been a master boxer.
     
    Golden_Feather99 and Balder like this.
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,503
    27,039
    Feb 15, 2006
    No, he is what Primo Carnera would have been, if he had top end power!
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,493
    3,718
    Apr 20, 2010
    If we take Wlad as he was just before losing to Purity, and beamed him back to 1930... he would arrive there with a 24-0 pro record, after going 134-6 in the amateurs. So he would be quite experienced.

    It's of course impossible to say, how his career would progress, if he went on from there. He may dominate the whole decade - or he may run into serious trouble against a young Louis around mid-decade. Both had the power to ko each other, so anything could happen there!
     
    Golden_Feather99 and Balder like this.
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    8,584
    11,096
    Oct 28, 2017
    There were a lot of good fighters in that era, it just lacked a dominant fighter.

    Max Baer is probably the most obvious stumbling block, but others would pose challenges, and I think he'd certainly pick up a few losses. If he wasn't we

    George Godfrey could be another danger man.
     
  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    8,584
    11,096
    Oct 28, 2017
    According to boxrec Max Baer has the same reach as Wlad and Primo Carnera has the same reach as Tyson Fury!
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,503
    27,039
    Feb 15, 2006
    You seem to be debating to what extent he would dominate the decade!

    Was there really no Purity to challenge him!
     
    Gazelle Punch likes this.
  11. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

    1,089
    1,362
    Apr 29, 2019
    Wlad had crazy longevity, if he can replicate that in 1930s he would either be a dominant Champion,, Multi-time Champion, or continuous threat. I could see him dropping the odd match to someone like Max Baer but winning trilogies.
     
  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,895
    7,566
    Jul 18, 2018
    I think Schmeling can pull something off here, but I agree that Baer is the biggest threat
     
  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    8,584
    11,096
    Oct 28, 2017
    Definitely possible.

    That said, I'd say Wlad would probably still overall be the strongest fighter between Tunney and Louis.
     
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,895
    7,566
    Jul 18, 2018
    He'd be the greatest but I really think Baer would have his number
     
    rinsj and BitPlayerVesti like this.
  15. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,916
    8,574
    Aug 15, 2018
    Max v Wlad would have been interesting. I think Baer roughs him up like Brewster did. Then he comes back and wins in a rematch. He also probably weighs significantly less