Wlad is lennox lewis 2.0

wlad < lennox

 

Wlad is basically a poor man's Lennox, they have very similar styles but if you say rate each of Lennox's attributes as 10 (they clearly weren't but for the point of this exercise), then Wlad would be 7 or 8 in each department.

I would back Bruno to put Wlad away, and infact be undisputed champion with the current crop of heavies - the stamina wouldn't be as much of an issue as Frank could be more economical with his punches and conserve energy, as Wlad doesn't like to initiate the action.

 

Lewis was better and up to this point, much more proven, but they are very similar in styles indeed. Lewis had a great uppercut but neglected his left hook often whereas Wlad has a great left hook but neglects the uppercut often.

I'd say Wlad is a bit more consistent with the jab, whereas Lewis mixed it up more and generally took more risks.

 

Lewis had the better jab in my opinion, but used his armoury more than Wlad, who is more robotic and relies on the jab and right hand - though the right was rarely used against Sultan

If Wlad had the exact same opponent list as Lennox, each opponent at that time etc etc, I would expect Wlad to be around 38-6, he would have lost to Holyfield twice and Bruno, + his brother!!, but wouldn't have been KO'd by Rahman - he would have been more cautious of the bombs.

 

Who cares whether I've been in the ring or not? I've been following boxing for 30 years, and know as much about the sport as any fan. And when I see a guy get annihilated early by one mediocre fighter, and then laid out cold by another, that tells me his chin just isn't that good. Again, it's the QUALITY of the knockdown that counts.

But like I said, don't think I'm arguing that Wlad has a great chin. Clearly, it's not that solid. But not as bad as some make out. Similarly, Lewis's isn't nearly as good as his apologists contend. If it wasn't for Emanuel Steward teaching him techniques to protect those shaky whiskers, he would have been likely knocked out many more times. Of course, the same can be said about Wlad. But, again, if you look at the WAY these guys were knocked out, this is what shows the difference in their chin strength.

 

Exactly what i thought!
And I don't understand why Steward doesn't teach Wlad how to throw his uppercut - definitely something he needs as he basically has no infight skills (besides clinching...)

 

He was the best fighter since Joe Louis.....apart from WALD and VITLAY, obviously. They were both taller than Louis, and Austin too.

 

not really perhaps you don't understand the concept of a good chin, being able to recover well is not the same as having a good chin. Look at cotto at 140 he was getting rocked all the time but revovered very quickly so that would mean he was abit weak chined with excellent recovery.

 

What a load of bollocks. you just hate Lewis because he owned Holyfield - everyone who's spent more than a week on this board knows it :good

 

wat like lewis, foreman, tua, ruddock,tyson, shavers etc etc

 

Hardly. I just call a spade a spade - or in this case, a shaky chin, a shaky chin!! Not my fault the Lewis apologist crowd can stand it when someone dares to question Lewis's fragile whiskers.:-(

I couldn't care less that Lewis beat an OLD Holyfield, and even that debatably in the second fight. What bothers me friend is how absurdly overrated Lewis is when he was the ONLY top level HW champ taken out in the early rounds by fighters on the level of McCall and Rahman - the ONLY one.

Now, if that isn't a distinction that shows how shaky his chin is, I don't know what is!

 

i think you care to much about holyfield

 

This would surely make Lewis' accomplishments greater the fact he did it with 'shaky whiskers'?

 

So how the hell did Lewis take shots from Tua, Vitali, Bruno etc with such a glass jaw? The mind boggles.

Sure, he had a good defence, and yes he fought to his strengths under Steward which somewhat limited the chances of him getting starched, but he STILL got hit many times

His chin is certainly not granite, but nothing like glass. It's fine.