In the 4 times Ali went down he always got up to finish the fight - 3 of which he won. Tyson lost in every fight he went down in, if my memory serves me right. Lewis went down twice in about 15 years, got up once and should have been allowed to carry on but the fight was stopped, and was legitimately KO'd once by a guy that really could hit. WALDO has been down 11 times or something similar, whilst fighting lesser comp than all of the above. It doesn't take a genius to work out who is the glass jawed one from this bunch.
Rahman tko Sanders incase you forgot lol. Imo rahman and brewster punching power is the same. Now back to this topic, i disagree that Wlad is Lennox Lewis. Lewis has fought way better fighters then Wlad and beat way better fighters then Wlad. Lewis has fought way more harder punches in rahman, tyson, holyfield, morrison, tua, vitali, rudduck, bruno, golata, mercer, briggs, grant, mccall. I must miss some one but anyway 11 out of 13 lewis didn't get dropped in which shows lewis does have a proven very good chin. I bet wlad didn't face atleast 11 fighters that got a knockout punch. Look i know you're a wlad fan but don't be biased saying both wlad and lewis chins are the samething in which that's not even true. Wlad was holding on for dear life vs peter and wlad should been deducted a point for way too many clinching. Wlad is a very good fighter but he's no lennox lewis. Lewis got a proven heart, chin, all around better fighter cause he can box as well as he can brawl. When has wlad ever been on a war that doesn't involved with too many damn holding?
Sorry man. I can't debate with people who refuse to even type a fighters name out properly just to **** people off. I thought you were a better poster than that. Oh well.
I bet you can't name me 11 fighters that got very ko record that wlad beat cause i can name 11 fighters that very ko record that lewis beat. Also lewis been on alot of great fights while wlad only been in 1 and thats vs peter.
Are you serious? Oh well. Anyway you say wlad got a bit better chin cause he got up from knockdowns right? Well CAN YOU NAME ME ATLEAST 11 FIGHTERS THAT GOT A VERY KO PERCENTEGE THAT WLAD BEAT?????? Cause i can name 13 fighters with a very good high ko percentege that lewis beat in Rahman, Tua, Vitali, Golata, Grant, Briggs, Mercer, Tyson, Holyfield, Morrison, Bruno, Rudduck, McCall. Unlike wlad, Lewis beat every fighters he ever faced. Wlad could have get a rematch vs Sanders but he's too scared to get destroyed again.
if you're evaluating chins I think you have to first determine who goes down more. If a fighter goes down 10 times gets up 10 times but of those 10 times is stopped 3 times, because he's hurt and therefore repeatedly dropped so the fight is stopped, that's still worse than if a guy fighting the same opposition goes down only 2 times and doesn't get up. It's somewhat subjective but the presumably the guy going down less either has a better chin, a better defense, is simply a better boxer or some combination of these.
I lost? I prefer not to debate with tools who can't even call the fighters by their names? WALDO, FRAUD... etc. It's pointless. And your argument holds nothing.
^^^^My arguement is very good but you ignoring it cause you can't name me 11 fighters with very good ko percentege that wlad beat. I prove to you that lewis got a way better chin then wlad but you ignoring it cause you don't want to face the truth.
Wlads chin is worse than Lewis', Lewis has proven he can take big punches and still keep fighting on, most of the time coming back to get the knockout, against fighters like Bruno and Briggs, he did exactly that. Briggs is and was one of the most devastatingly powerful first round knockout artists, with 60% of his wins coming by first round knockout, Lewis took Briggs' best punches and kept fighting on, getting a knockout a couple rounds later. Bruno was out jabbing Lewis early on, even buckling his legs with vicous blows, he held his composure and fought on to get a knockout in the middle rounds. Even Vitali had him out his feet, yet, found a way to survive and get the TKO in the 6th round from a horrible cut caused by Lewis' heavy blows. I have been watching Wlad for awhile now, and can honestly say I know more than most of his fans, Wlad is a fragile heavyweight, he melts under pressure and heavy blows, he has 1/100 of the toughness Lewis had, who went toe to toe with his foes quite often. If you want to compare the jab, maybe the straight right, I could see, but when it comes to toughness or chin, Lewis has him beat by a mile IMO.
Man your credibility concerning Lewis has gone to ****. Now a china chin is defined as how you act when you go down? Bull**** - its what it takes to put you down. Wladimir has been put down on his merits by nobodies. Lewis got put down TWICE including one bull**** stoppage and brutally avenged. Have you ever actually been in the ring and taken punches Zakman? Bet you haven't - any arrogant fighter will be put down due to arrogance, got nothing to do with a china chin. You stand side on to me with your hands down and I could spark your arse into next year.