Wlad is not a top 20 HW, he has never beaten anyone of significance

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    Did you just misquote Keita?

    I searched BOTH of the documents you provided links for but was unable to find the quote above. Perhaps you can tell me exactly where I can find it? However, I did find this;
    Now, care to explain where I can find your missing quote?
     
  2. Nay_Sayer

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    Your argument is based on unconfirmed leaked results of a DNA test. IOW, you have no argument.

    Where are the official results?
     
  3. cross_trainer

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    This smiley is getting a lot of mileage recently: :patsch

    I don't think you're reading my posts, and I don't think you're reading your own sources. Your response just proves it further.

    I said that the Kushites were foreign invaders like the Hyksos. You seem to have twisted this in your own mind to mean that the Hyksos were culturally identical to the Kushites in every way, which I never said.

    To "disprove" the point that you pretend I made, you just replied that the Kushites didn't see themselves as foreign invaders. Which is irrelevant.

    The Kushites came from outside Egypt. Historians do not consider them Egyptians. Egyptologists do not consider them Egyptians. The Egyptians themselves did not consider them Egyptians. Thus, they are foreign invaders. It doesn't matter whether they saw themselves as "restorers" of Egyptian culture. I said they were foreign. They were. I said they were invaders. They were. End of discussion.


    Of course, it's pretty obvious why you're pushing this nonexistent point so hard: you have basically nothing else. Perhaps I should start writing your own posts for you and debating against those instead.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    Again with the insults, and I'm being very civil with you. If you hope to convince people of your "opinion" you should maybe think about the way you conduct yourself.

    She is saying the skull is from Africa, specifically North Africa, which it is. I also know what she said regarding the issue of the skull's "race" and skin color so I must consider that as well. Sorry, but I'm at an advantage as I'm looking at this from a neutral open minded perspective.

    You are the one trying to prove your opinion, and by doing so are stretching and nitpicking Anton's words to imply what you want, reading between lines that may or may not be there. Dangerous territory, so we just have to take her words at face value. If Anton found Tut to be Negroid or black, she would not have stated the race was "hard to call" and refused to assign him one.
     
  5. Nay_Sayer

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    What is the source of Keita's quote? Exactly where did Keita say that so I can put this quote in it's proper context?
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    Thank you. Now, lets look @ some facts concerning skulls from North Africa, specifically those of 18th Dynasty royalty;
    But wait, there's other evidence in a much broader sense to confirm the above;
    Now, do you still wish to continue this debate armed with your one single out of context quote from Dr Anton?
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    -Those links have not changed since you last posted them and they still can't change Anton's final conclusions or well inconclusions regarding Tut's "race."

    -Nobody has took Anton's quotes out of context, though you have certainly tried to put words into her mouth. Really, you just can't use a source that directly states his race was "hard to call" to argue Tut was a specific race. The only other direct modern studies of Tut's cranium was the French and Egyptian team...you know what their findings were. The debate is still open. Sorry, but you can't end something this controversial as a bystander, sitting at home on your computer, posting links and calling everybody childish names.

    I think we are done..
     
  8. Nay_Sayer

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    Anton didn't make any conlcusion regarding Tut's race, however, she *did* make a conclusion regarding his origin;
    Anton confirms that Tut is an African - which is all we need. We know Tut is a royal of the 18th Dynasty. So, again, lets look at the FACTS as it relates to the cranial features of 18th Dynasty royalty.
    Feel free to take your head out of your ass anytime you get ready...
     
  9. Nay_Sayer

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    Where are the official results of Tut's DNA test?
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    -The professional forensic expert who personally studied the mummy couldn't come to a conclusion regarding his race and is open to his color being lighter or darker than depicted in the reconstruction, maybe we should as well.

    -Well in addition to the repetitive nature of your argument, I'm afraid your continous disrespectful and childish insults is forcing me to no longer consider anything you have to say on the matter. How can one debate with a child? You have done those who share your viewpoint a great disservce by conducting yourself in this manner. As I said, we are done.
     
  11. Nay_Sayer

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    You keep harping on the color of his skin all the while ignoring the FACTS that are right in front of you.

    Why is that?

    Are you suffering from some kind of psychosis? It certainly seems like it...
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    You were done pages ago, Genius.

    Like I said, Ancient Egypt = Black Africa

    You had better get used to the idea...
     
  13. RUSKULL

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    Happy to help!

    These are supposed boxings fans that go out of their way to start threads to disparage the Klitschkos, Floyd, etc. I'm a boxing fan and I appreciate all boxers, see the difference? They are jealous & consumed with hate because the Klitschko brothers are so successful and they apparently aren't. Maybe it's because they aren't American or British, or maybe it's because they aren't thugs a la Tyson, or maybe it's simply because they're white.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Exactly, and Anton's official conclusion after considering all the features of the mummy was tentatively North African of an undetermined race. The only difference between her and the French team's findings was she objects to the skull description Cacusoid in general, funny she never mentions Negroid either. She also had no problem with the skin tone used given the facial reconstruction and suggests it could even be lighter as well as darker. Skin tone is suddenly not important to Nay-Sayer yet he made a big deal about it several pages back. The guy is clown, really not worth your time or effort.

    Really the most interesting thing about Tut is not his racial ambiguity, its also the female aspect noted by all three teams. Perhaps some deformity from all the imbreeding? No idea, but its interesting to say he was no doubt a weird looking dude.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    I disagree. Well, with Nay_Sayer it might be racial :lol: But domintant Heavyweight Champions are always criticized unfairly in their own time. What you see with the Klitschko Brothers is nothing new. Even with all the praises of Tyson's invincibilty, much was made of his subpar competition and era.