Wlad is simply a top athlete effective in his comfort zone. Vitali is a phenomenon

I read it.... and I definitely don't agree with it.

Tell me... if Wlad's opponents see his punches coming, and not Vitali's.... then why does Wlad knock more people out clean? Wlad does not only work in straight lines, and his punching arsenal is better than Vitali's. Vitali might throw from more awkward angles, but Wlad has a better jab, straight right, and left hook. Also, Wlad's footwork/mobility is absolutely insane for a fighter of his size. Better than ANY fighter his size, ever. It is his great footwork along with his great jab that allows him to control the distance of the fight. It isn't that Wlad can "only" fight at this distance. It's that Wlad is great enough to force everyone to fight at his preferred distance. That's called ring generalship. Wlad's ring IQ is amazing. The man hardly ever takes a clean punch, while he completely dismantles his opponents. Wlad controls the distance, timing, and tempo of his fights. It takes much more than just a great athlete to fight like that.

If Vitali could fight like Wlad, he would. Vitali is great, and has his own set of great attributes. I agree that they are DEFINITELY not the same type of fighter. If you look at Wlad's earlier career... he fought A LOT more like Vitali does.

Wlad could fight like Vitali if he chose to do so... Vitali could not fight like Wlad.

Wlad could take a lot of steam and power off of his shots, and punch from multiple angles all night too. They are called arm punches. Vitali throws arm punches 95% of the time. It is very effective for Vitali, and he puts more snap on his punches when he wants to. The point is that they are just different styles that each of them use... because it works best with their attributes. Vitali can't move like Wlad, so he has to use this style. Vitali has to depend solely on his height, and ability to anticipate punches coming so he can lean back and away from them.

 

Bla bla bla....

Chambers, used up Peter that previously received that ass whuppin of his life by Vitali and put Wlad down 3 times, Chagaev, Ibriganov...

Corrie Sanders, Lamont Brewster Ross Purity

 

Are you time traveling? Why are you talking about stuff that happened over 6 years ago? Are you unaware that some fighters learn and get better?

 

Vitali and Wlad also both have phD (doctorate) degrees. Killer boxers and smart too.

Do you Klit haters have that?

:blah

 

Unless you have been under a rock since 2004... I think you would know that he clearly got better. Less exciting? Possibly... but definitely better.

 

Vitali is a master at distance, no doubt.

However I have never seen WK hit another fighter so many times without them falling over. WK would have got Briggs out of there.

 

Vitali has a great ability to see an opponnents weight shift and lean backwards away from punches. He did this to briggs all night then countered with the left hook and overhand right.

 

hard to compare based solely on Sam Peter, Sam was a different fighter in 2 if not all 3 of his fights with a Klitschko

 

Sam did come in alot more heavier in the Vitali fight. So you could argue that Wlad fought the more in shape mobile Peter. Makes you wonder if Vitali's win would have been more in impressive if Peter came in at 239 or 240...

 

Vitali > Wlad

 

Good thread. Vitali has always been the better fighter in my eyes. It angers me that a great fighter like Vitali gets unfairly lumped in with his mark-ass brother. Wlad fights like a ***** and constantly tries to trash talk his bum opponents. Vitali is a warrior and a gentleman.

I would even argue that he has a better resume than Wlad. Unlike Wlad, Vitali never lost badly to total bums and he has looked convincing in all of his wins. I don't see any of Wlad's competition as exceeding Vitali's so I really see no case for putting Wlad above his bro.

 

Styles clash. Witaly fights at his best against forward pressure fighters like Sam peter or dany williams was. Wlads best category is boxers.
Example:
Tommy hearns is outstanding fighter who can outbox almost anyone in all divisions he fought. But he had problems with pressure fighters and could be steamrolled by physical force(hagler). At the same time Hagler struggles with SRL who adopted counter punching style. Hearns out boxed SRL both times(until he got stopped but this due to his chin).
Witaly will always look better against like of Peter while Wlad has MUCH easier fights with likes of byrd, gomez etc.

 

The original post clearly describles their difference that most didn't realize were so obvious.......me included. I see that the differences in styles is obviously much more than one being *tougher* and the other *more fluid and professional looking*.

My input is that...................I think Wlad, with his sitting down on his powershots (and getting so many brutal KO wins) IS almost confined to a comfort zone, and straight line punching. He needs to reset and reassume his position each and every time, it seems, as that is where his power comes from; his body being positioned/his comfort zone. That is why a pressure fighter like Peter makes him very *out of sorts* and he has to constantly reset........But he's so talented and skilled at staying in his *comfort zone*, that you can't argue with his success............And its obviously effective as hell, regardless of what anyone may think of it.

Vitali, on the other hand, does not sit down on his punches, and as a result, is able to land at angles that the oppoent is not expecting. The resulting arm punches are not thrown as hard, as he's throwing them *on the move*, and in many different positions................. but there are alot more of them, and they come from any and all angles and body positions Vitali happens to be in in any given exchange.

Very impressive post by the thread starter. And very accurate as to how I see the differences in them, too.

To summarize, Vitali is the superior overall fighter, exchanging hard powershots for a huge volume of *unexpected* and almost swarming armpunches from all angles that clubs his opponent into submission, whereas Wlad's comfort zone punches, which he sits down on, earns him more KO victories, makes him a bit more exciting to watch, as you know someone is getting KTFO.

This is the interesting and insightful thread topic on the K Bros I've read in quite some time. Bravo.