Wlad Klitchko vs Lennox Lewis?

I don't necessarily agree with everything you have written, but this was a thoughtful piece of analysis that is grounded in reality. Thank you. You have gone to the time to acually think about it. It was worth my time reading.

That's unlike some of the meagre offerings that have been scraped together by some of the Lewis fanbots here and the usual suspect in the form of the Klitschko - hating DinoDeluded and his fantasies of "lightning quick" Briggs

Soon we're going to hear how Briggs trained in the basement of Dino's nightclub under the tutelage of Ali himself, afterwhich they all went and shared a hot tub and a back rub together.

 

I'm glad there are a few people on this board who know what they are talking.

Great post, and I think I can sum it up even more concisely. Wlad has no inside game, it is virtually non-existent, nul, zero, nil, kaput.

People who don't recognise this, don't understand boxing. People who think it is 50/50, don't understand boxing. People who think Wlad is favourite, don't understand boxing.

It baffles me when I wonder what it is all these guys have all been watching all these years.

 

You don't understand boxing. You are as clueless as your other hero Corbyn

 

It would be unusual of me to side with Dino but the litany of facts that he put in that post that you disregarded compels me to.
If all you take out of that is "lightning quick" then you have dropped to the poster level of the minions.

 

Good post.

It mostly echoes my thoughts.

"Wlad has no answer for Lewis' aggression and is KO'd" All intangibles aside, that last line of your post is what it comes down to imo.

 

So is it your love for Klitschko or hatred for Lewis that compels you to type like this ?

Forgive me for asking such a taxing question, but it seems you would be more coherent if you knew the answer to this.

 

When a man hits hard enough with either hand to one-shot the other, it seems strange to me to believe he's got no possible answer.

 

Well yeah I agree. That's why I gave him the 5% chance

 

I give Lewis a 5% chance vs prime WK. Every one of his fundamentals are inferior. There is nothing Lewis does better except fouling his opponent and getting away with it.

 

Lol!

So is it your love for Lewis or your hatred for Klitschko that causes you to type the stupid **** you have in this thread?? "5% chance"

Sorry for such a TAXING question!

 

Sure Wlad could theoretically catch Lewis coming in or beat him to the punch and score the KO. But fact is Wlad doesn't meet aggression with aggression at least not during his prime.

Wlad when faced with aggression does one of 2 things, clinch or move away, he doesn't trade and he doesn't counter punch. And his movement is over rated, it's improved over time but it's still not great. He has fast feet, good balance and reacts quickly we saw that against Haye but against constant pressure his lack of lateral movement means he all too often is forced to clinch or is driven to the ropes.

Vitali moves much better laterally than Wlad. Just compare their fights with Same Peter to see the difference. Wlad spent a lot of that fight being backed up or on the ropes, Vitali on the other hand was in the centre of the ring most of the fight, as he is constantly side stepping and not just when being defensive which is what WLad usually does but when punching and being aggressive, he had Peter going around in circles and was rarely on the ropes while because Wlad instinctively moves back was forced straight back into the ropes.

Lewis had no issues in cutting the ring off against the better lateral movement of Vitali, he has no problems finding Wlad. So 1, Wlad isn't gonna throw when Lewis comes in and 2 he doesn't move well enough laterally to keep Lewis at arms reach.

So with no inside game and no way to keep Lewis at a distance he loses.

 

I'm not going to bother typing a long post out to a guy that has me on ignore.

Besides, Chagaev > Briggs. Only Dino will try make an argument that Klitschko was scared of Briggs and ducked him ... and trust me, he will make that argument.

 

Orrrr ... he fights fire with fire. Wlad has had no problem in feeding right hand thunderbolts to guys that try to get stroppy with him. Pulev, AJ and Brewster amongst many will attest to his effectiveness at doing so.

I agree it would be in Lewis' interest to turn it into a war. Lennox often finds a way to land the big fight-turning shots, and they are physically quite evenly matched. I think that Wlad has a finer jab and a better game at range, so Lewis would probably be advised to take it to the trenches.

I'd agree that in a close-up slugfest Lewis should rightly be favoured. He has a lot of tools here.

However I don't agree that it will be that easy for Lewis to (a) close it up (b) close the distance without getting tagged and (c) close the distance AND GET OFF without getting tied up.

In any case, I recognise that both of these guys are to some extent glass cannons, and that their punching power far exceeds the loading strain of either of their chins No KO result would surprise me.

 

Wlad threw straighter punches with faster hands. He lands first and wins. Lewis's measurement of range against Vitali was awful. Wlad throws the bombs his brother couldn't.

 

The examples you gave with Pulev and Joshua pretty much confirm what I said before. Against aggression he doesn't throw counters or trades. What he did with Pulev and Joshua was beat a stationary target to the punch. When Wlad is allowed to lead he is very effective.

Sure maybe he catches Lewis in a sloppy moment where he's standing in front on Wlad doing nothing but that to me relies on Lewis making a mistake which is basically the definition of a lucky punch. It could happen but I see it as a less likely scenario.

Both at their best doing what they do Lewis for me has a clear style advantage. Does that mean Lewis 100% wins if they had fought of course not were are just making educated guesses.

I just can't see Wlad winning other than by landing a luck shot which Lewis could do as well and be more likey to do as he does counter punch unlike Wlad. I don't think he can comfortably out box Lewis like Vitali did and even then that was an old Lewis and we are talking prime for prime not prime against old and faded. And even if you think he can out box Lewis I can't see him dealing with Lewis' aggression. He just doesn't have the variety to deal with what Lewis brings. That's just how I see it, it's a matter of styles.