Wlad Klitchko vs Lennox Lewis?

Lewis was only 37 years old against Vitali and had his 44th professional fight when he fought.

To give you some perspective on that,
Wlad was 37 when he easily tooled Povetkin in his 64th professional fight.
Wlad was 38 when he brutally KO'd Pulev in his 66th fight.

Vitali was 37 years off a 4 year layoff and obliterated Sam Peter to become world champion.

Please stop the excuses for Lennox Lewis and how he got obliterated! A fighter usually shows deterioration at least 1-2 fights before they leave their prime. LL showed none of that whatsoever. He ducked Vitali and shamefully retired.

 

Lewis has the reach advantage and can fight inside too. Could see an overhand right or an uppercut catching Wlad as he tried to grab after coming under pressure from Lewis. Wlad has a good chance but my money would be on Lewis.

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Lewis via KO. Just a better fighter. What else is there to say?

 

A genuine toss up of a fight. Anybody emphtically picking the one or the other DKSAB, or is playing the fan card.

Wlad a bit better skilled and more consistent. Maybe a harder puncher.

Lewis a bit tougher with a bit better chin. A much better uppercut.

I think it would come down to whether they could handle each other's jabs and where it would go from there. I favour Wlad's jab over Lennox's but then, Lewis has more options to fall back on should Plan A fail. Would have loved to have seen it.

 

Perspective lol how about some real context. The Vitali that Lewis struggled with would of murked the Povetkin and Pulev a 37 and 38 year old Wlad fought.

So Wlad beating those guys isn't surprising they weren't as good as Vitali hell Wlad isn't as good as Vitali. And just because Wlad beat those guys doesn't mean at 37 and 38 he wasn't past prime because he clearly was, he's been in decline since Pianeta for me. The difference in how they performed is simply down to the fact how good Vitali was. You can't compare them off of performances against different fighters, especially when one of those fighters on his worst day would school the others.

So yeah another post by you that just shows how little you know and how the concept of logic seems to be some abstract concept for you beyond your comprehension.

 

Oh. it's a massacre, when both at their best.

Wlad leaves on a stretcher.

The only times I can remember Lewis performing poorly is when he didn't looked focused, coming into the ring heavier than usual, breathing heavily early, in fights he probably wasn't taking as seriously, like against Vitali and Rahman. He came into the ring against Vitali at a career high of 257lbs. Even then, he still left Vitali needing 60 stitches and his eyebrow hanging off his face from a booming right hand. And he caught Vitali flush on the chin, right on the button, Wladimir is going to sleep from that shot, luckily for Vitali he has a great chin and Lewis was too out of shape to capitalise.

Some of the stinkers I've seen from Wladimir, I can barely fathom Lennox Lewis performing that badly that consistently, you'd really have to see Lewis at his worst to see him perform as badly as Wlad performed against the likes of David Haye. And that is regarded as one of Wladimir's greatest nights.

Lewis at his worst versus Wladimir at his best is a 50/50 fight.

For goodness sake Wladimir can't even fight on the inside, which was never highlighted more than when Tyson Fury faced him. This wasn't age that was the problem, this was a deficiency in technical skills, at no point did he even try to fight Fury on the inside on a night when he simply HAD to. He threw his right hand 14 times I think in the entire fight. An average of just over once per round. It is unfathomable that he didn't revert to fighting on the inside when he couldn't find his range from distance against Fury.

Lennox Lewis eats him for breakfast. If you don't know this, you don't know boxing, and you should probably find another sport to watch.

 

One of the few times I'll ever agree with Jeremy Corbyn.

 

Lewis is the GOAT at HW. The Number 1 of all time.

He would be favourite against Wlad to the tune of 60-40.

A great great fight.

 

OK, I will bite, explain the "pretty bad chin" comment please?

Yes Lewis was stopped twice and as we know avenged both defeats, Lewis was arrogant and lazy in both of those defeats. It's heavyweight boxing, it happens, that's why we love the big men.

But I don't remember Lewis on the floor that much or reeling/wobbling around the ring, do you? remind me please.

As for WK Vs LL, I think you are looking at a fat, out of shape, 38 year old LL against Vitali and a prime/very good WK?

What about the WK against Sanders or Brewster? Or Sam Peter in the first fight, that looked like a "pretty bad chin", how many times did Joshua drop WK?

The WK/Joshua fight was basically Lewis Vs Vitali, a very good young hungry heavyweight Vs an older, past his prime and on the verge of retirement heavyweight, the difference being Lewis still won.

 

Agree. I just struggle to see Wlad not getting caught at some stage of the 12 rounds and getting his deer in the headlights look. It always seemed to me as if the panic in Wlad when he got hit was a major part of any chin issues.

If they fought 100 times I'd back Lewis to win 80.

 

Fighters peak and decline at different ages, all depends on the career they have had and other factors.

You must have heard people say or the phrase "a fighter can turn old over night", I always assumed that to mean you can lose whatever prime or form you had very very quickly.

It is not a guarantee you start to show signs, it can just leave you. It happens to some fighters in training camps, they start a camp and it just isn't there anymore, something is missing.

And who obliterated Lewis? McCall and Rahman, well yeah but he avenged both defeats, one emphatically and one was by nervous breakdown but still avenged.

When should have Lewis retired? He fought Vitali, yes he struggled, ripped his face to pieces and stopped him. It wasn't headbutts or elbows, punches caused those injuries, it was a legitimate stoppage.

So he was 38 years old, out of shape, lost his desire and yet still beat Vitali, after a career like Lewis' he had earned the right to retire whenever he liked.

Did Wladimir "duck" the Joshua rematch? Is that shameful?

No, he fought, he lost, it was a very close fight in my opinion, WK was maybe one solid punch away from winning it. Yet he decided he didn't have the desire or energy to keep going.

Should he have risked a potential beating just to satisfy some boxing fans? And also not be called "shameful" or a "ducker"?

 

Some great points in that.

I've got no problem with Lennox retiring when he did. Would have been nice to see a rematch, with Lennox & Vitali properly focused. My guess is Lennox went back to training for a few days after taking a bit of stick, then decided "I can't do this anymore". If you've lost your desire, you should get out as soon as you can. We've seen too many times guys carry on for too long then take a sad, sad beating.

I bet every single person who says Lennox ducked Vitali would have happily seen Wlad retire if he'd managed to scrape a win with AJ.

People are so inconsistent, they'll say "so and so" carried on too long with one hand, then when finally a big name gets out at the right time they'll criticise him for that too. And then personal biases get in the way too, which make people even more inconsistent.

 

Spot on.

 

Lennox Lewis, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

I'd favor Lewis to stop Wlad, prime for prime.

Also, who has Steward in their corner in this mythical matchup?