Wlad Klitchko vs Lennox Lewis?

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  1. latineg

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    Just a tip Herol,

    You're going to get banned for by-passing the word filter if you don't edit your post of the M word, lol

    You're welcome.
     
  2. C.J.

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    I spent many hours in Curtis Cokes gym in DallasTx & I never saw them even spar together let alone one knock the other down
     
  3. SmackDaBum

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    I understand your panic point, it sounds good but Klitschko proved himself against Joshua who also's got an 82 inch reach. Joshua's deadly with combos but Wlad didn't panic by his reach or speed when Joshua was just as fast as Klitschko with the jab.

    According strength. Vitali looked stronger than Lewis in their fight. I would give Wlad the same edge atleast.

    Lewis might edge Wlad in stamina but I doubt it. As a 240+ pounder himself Lewis never showed nothing more than an average gastank/workrate.

    I can see Lewis jabbing with Wlad from a stationary point of view - however Wlad also got excellent linear footspeed. And throws straighter faster punches with both hands.

    95/5 Lewis really?

    Even if I rolled on your arguments I would give Lewis 70/30 at most.
     
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  4. Todd498

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    Gotta love the little bandwagon riders and tag alongs. Lol

    "Lewis would go through him like Golota!"

    "Lewis TKO6 his brother! Imagine what he'd do to Wlad!"


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  5. Threetime no1

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    The panic point sounds good because it's a distinct possibility.

    I, like many, had a lot more respect for Wladimir for the Joshua fight than any other in his career. But even in that fight, whenever Joshua had success it didn't take long at all for Wlad to revert back to type and capitulate. Just like we'd seen in previous years. Don't be blinded by the courage he showed, but look at how quick things turn south for him in them spots. Not knocking his courage against Joshua, just pointing out his capitulation.

    Let's remember here too Joshua IS NOT Lewis. One's a seasoned champion with a big ring IQ, the other is a bright young novice, still learning. Also Lewis has longer arms than both these men. A point you seem to miss.

    I'll be honest and say Vitali matched (not beat) an old Lewis for strength. But I've never seen Wlad being as physically as strong as those two.

    The only one found wanting for stamina in their careers was Wlad so we'll leave that there.

    You seeing Lewis as a stationary target on the end of Wlads jab sounds good eh? But hang on Lewis has better lateral movement and is a counter puncher...a good one at that. Lewis wouldn't fight this fight long anyway, I think that's obvious.

    Wlad while quick of foot for a shw, moves mostly straight forward and back. Which for me is just another avenue Lewis could exploit especially with that 84inch reach. Vitali certainly couldn't avoid his punches.

    Has good as Wlad can be he hasn't got a strategy that I can see to beat Lewis . Pretty much everything he does plays into Lennox's hands. Lewis has more options. But the key as I've said, would be aggression.

    As a package Lewis is the better and more complete fighter than Wladimir Klitschko.
     
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  6. SmackDaBum

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    And I would have had alot more respect for Lewis if he fought Wladimir than any other fights of his career. Not even Vitali-rematch or Bowe would have come close.

    That's partly because of Wlad's declining physical attributes, reaction time and explosiveness starts to decline as early as in your 30's. If he were just a little bit sharper, Joshua would't have had as much success regarding the distance, jab and cross type of fight.

    No, Joshua's not Lewis. Joshua was a bit pre prime regarding experience, like coming in a bit too heavy etc. - which affects ring IQ. Their reach are equal: [url]http://imgur.com/a/LjOgP[/url] -- [url]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/koFtAeNTY6M/maxresdefault.jpg[/url]

    But Joshua has better speed and reactions - just as Wlad once had.

    But the big difference here is that the old Lion just left the building even without a fight when the successor showed up.

    [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:334143[/url]

    He saw the greatness. But ran away. Atleast an old Klitschko was trying his best...

    Wlad's stronger. Not staminawise but for pure strength, its him.

    That's true - for the young pre prime version. This fight would be between both at around 240, with devastating power. Lewis wouldn't be able to "cheat" against Wlad that he managed to do against Vit. One misstake and you'r out... That's the type of fight we would be looking at.

    81 vs 82. Wlad's taller aswell so it will come down to speed. Sure Lewis is better than Wlad in lateral movement, but he's not David Haye good at it. And Wlad were able to time him often enough to sail away with a clear decision.


    Lewis is no mercer, he can't risk being tagged (by Wlad) being aggressive.

    The fight will be fought from the outside and Wlad's simply better at it.

    Wlad UD.
     
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  7. cuchulain

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    I agree.
     
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  8. Threetime no1

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    These posts are getting longer lol. Fair play for effort but it's a bout I only see one way. I know Wlads strengths and weaknesses and I know Lewis'.

    It seems you're falling into thinking Lewis is just gonna be another Wlad opponent on the end of his jab, too timid and weary of Wlads power to get inside. To suit your argument it's ideal isn't it? But in reality we know exactly how Lewis would approach this.

    Wlads ONLY way to fight is on the outside. Lewis has more than this which we've established already. You are mistaken or playing dumb if you think Lewis would fight him long. Not because Lennox is inferior there, he just fights aggressively against tall men. De ja vu kicking in here!

    Coming in heavy as nothing to do with ring iq.

    Lewis reach 84 Wlad 81-2.

    Wlad is NOT stronger.

    Don't mention David Haye for 'any' comparison with Lewis mate lol.

    Wlad was barely on Lewis radar never mind fight him. Corrie Sanders ended any minute hopes of Wlad fighting the champ anyway.

    Lewis ran from nobody.
    He had one fight too many but still come though it, unlike so many others, including Wlad. He retired at the top, after a tough win past his best (tko6) and got out at the right time after cleaning up. Fair play.

    You seem an ok poster so I've been respectful and answered your points but you could be a
    trolling Klittard?!? My thoughts on this fight have been the same for years and now Wlad has finished his career my thoughts will remain this way forever.
    Lewis roughs Wlad up and stops him in 5. It could be a ko or going by how easy Wlad marks up it could easily be a stoppage on cuts. Only way Lewis loses if he gets careless (in this big fight he wouldn't). Wlads strengths in this fight wouldn't come into play. Like I said, I respect Wlad but Lewis is a big no no for him. Peace!
     
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  9. HerolGee

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    this is like watching lewis wlad for real, with 3time lennox and smackmybum playing the role of wlad getting ktfo.
     
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  11. CooperKupp

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    :deal:
     
  12. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    All Wlad has is jab, right hand, left hook that's it. Lennox got a jab, right hand, left hook, uppercut, combinations and can mix it up inside. Also has a better chin although both got KTFO
     
  13. CooperKupp

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    Correction… Wlad was NEVER KTFO. Lewis was. Twice. Klitschko never took a ten count.

    Also Lewis never had Wlad’s hand speed, foot speed or ring IQ. There’s a reason Steward said “Ladimir is the most talented HW I’ve ever worked with. He also has the most one punch power. I call it lights out power.”

    Nobody is just blasting anybody out in this one. That’s foolish to think that. I think Wlad carried his power a little better into the later rounds than Lewis did. That’s where I think Wlad would get him. Both guys would be wary of the others power. So Lewis isn’t going to be “Bitzing” Jack ****.
     
  14. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    And what do you call what Lamont Brewster and Corrie Sanders did to him?
     
  15. CooperKupp

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    Stopped him. Not Knocked him the **** out. Which is what KHTFO means. Wlad was on his feet in all of his losses. He wasn’t One Hit And Quit like Lewis