Wlad Klitschko KO4 Joe Louis - P4P and H2H

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  1. Sakura

    Sakura Boxing Addict banned

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    "You've just made a case for dumbest poster. Louis knocked out some guy's who were Wlad's size or bigger than Wlad. Just because him and Byrd are the same weight doesn't mean they have the same punch stupid. Louis hit 100 times harder than Byrd."

    Agree, but wlad is also 100 times better than those big fighters, who Louis won...
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, this is true (apart from the 100 times bit).

    Each would be the best fighter the other had ever faced.
     
  3. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of physical ability, I'd have to agree, but, in terms of skill-set, Louis has a decided edge over the likes of Sanders and Brewster. He possessed faster hands and much better punching techique, and he was sound enough from a defensive standpoint to work his way inside against many taller fighters who possessed a pretty decent jab.

    Louis wasn't a small guy...as stated before, he trained more for speed than for strength, so concentrated on keeping his weight down, rather than bulking up. He was big enough that his punches would have a significant impact on any of today's heavyweights, and he was good enough to ensure that his punches would connect.

    Wlad's the best of today's heavyweights, and a vitory over Louis isn't necessarily inconceiveavle...but, I don't see it happening.

    Louis KO 10.
     
  4. TheGreat

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    If Sanders, Purrity, and Brewster were able to KO him than Louis would also be able to take him down.
     
  5. Decker

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    Deep analysis. Here's a counter. None of Wlads losses were 10 count KO's. Louis was KO'd by fading CWT Schmeling; shook up & decked by Galento, whose road work consisted of going from the dinner table to the kitchen for another plate of pasta. Galento could throw some round house bombs from that low crouch of his, but he wouldn't touch Wlad, never mind drop him. Btw, I move like Billy Conn in his prime compared to "2 ton" Tony :lol:; speaking of Conn, he gave a prime Louis fits - as a SMW :shock: do you think Calzaghe could give Wlad fits for 13 rounds? :nut CWT Walcott dropped a 33 year old Louis twice en route to getting robbed. Its not even fair to mention the KTFO loss to 184 lb Marciano - Joe was way past it by then, but wasn't that old.

    Very, very unlikely Wlad losses or gets dropped by a ring worn Max, fat ass Tony G, a near 34 year old Walcott; or gets pushed by any SMW.

    Buddy Bear, Abe Simon, and Primo were the only name, real big HWs Joe faced, and they were all klutzes compared to Wlad, Lennox, and many other current HWs. Many recent or current HWs would have a good chance vs JL - Tyson, Holly to name a few more.
     
  6. Sakura

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    It's same that if i've say'ed Wlad can ko Lewis easily if Mccall can do it, or ALi, because...Brewster and Purritty won, because wlads bad stamina(it's fixed)...Sanders lost was clear and simply lost..sanders is big, fast and powerfull fighter, he give vitali real trouble in first rounds and do it better than lewis.:deal

    Try to compare Louis and wlads opponents weights and you see Louis opponents are mostly cruiserweights guys...i cant see they go till end with wlad.
    [url]http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9027&cat=boxer[/url]
     
  7. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Galento could punch and Klitchsko chin isn't all that good so he could knock him down. Louis KO'ed people with granite chins like Baer, Galento, and Braddock so he could definitely knock Wlad out.
     
  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Those guys were both 6'2" and around 200lbs.

    Look it isn't taking anything away from those guys back then. Everything is relative to its time. Wlad is just HUGE compared to anyone those guys had to even consider facing. And the guys that were close to Wlads size were in no way as physically gifted, agile or skilled as him :deal Most of the Heavyweights back then were under 215lbs, a good percentage even under 200lbs. Wlad gets constantly bashed on for fighting smaller men...Byrd, Castillo, etc...and they are heavier then the "big guys" back then. Would Wlad beat all of those guys 10 times out of 10....MAYBE NOT :deal But I guaruntee you he would be the toughest challenge anyone of them would have to face and I wouldn't favor any of those guys against him.

    Honestly, just picture what Wlad would have done to Billy frigg'n Conn :yikes
     
  9. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Being bigger doesn't make you take a punch better.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    No. But being much smaller limits the amount of power you can get on it. And if we are accustomed to seeing a guy hit 200lbers and suddenly have to watch him try and have the same success on a 245lber....who is solid muscle, the results may be much different.

    I'm more concerned with exactly how those fighters would deal with Wlads shots :deal Not the other way around. Everything has changed. Back then the fighters were simply smaller and couldn't possibly generate the same amount of force and power as the fighters today.

    And Honestly, I know Marciano was viewed as a huge puncher back then....but if he was around today:

    1. He wouldn't even qualify as a HW, so he wouldn't be fighting them anyway
    2. If he was fighting todays "awfully weak" division of Heavyweights he wouldn't have nearly as much success with his Power Shots. :deal :deal :deal
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano only fought 9 guys over 200lbs. 9!!!!!!! :deal

    Joe Louis was the 2nd heaviest guy he ever fought at around 215lbs :deal