Wlad Klitschko KO4 Joe Louis - P4P and H2H

Lets have the bought in 1970. As I have said before, a time capsule fight is a fantasy, so I go all the way with the fantasy and preditct the size that each man would be in the particular year of the fight. In 1970 Joe would be about 6'2" 215-220, Klit would be about 6'5" and 230.

Joe would most likely take care of Klit in the middle to late rounds once he figures things out and starts landing some heavy leather, but he will take some big damage along the way. Of course the Billy Conn reference is a good one leaves a big question mark. However, because of Joe's power and skill, and Klits chin doubts, gotta go with Joe. If Klit had a better chin I'd call it a pick em'.

 

WTF?:rofl So, time travel has morphed these men into different human being's all together? What you are saying makes no sense.

During his prime Joe Louis was 190-200 pounds. He was 6'2" 196-200 pounds to be about on the average. Wladimir would be 6'6 1/2" 243 pounds on the average.

That is who would be fighting. Not some different creatures created through a time machine. You can't take away height and weight from a guy, and then pretend that he would still be the same fighter. If Wlad was shorter, and lighter... then he would be a different fighter.

 

BewareofDawg, you have more guts than I do to start a thread like this... I completely agree w/you, but the fans who glorify the past and their HWs will be attacking. Louis was great for his era, but the skilled guys he faught would be CWs today - and he struggled w/many of them. Can you imagine a tub of lard like Galento - who trained on plates of pasta & a six pack - decking LL or K bros? Most (all?) of the 200+ pounders he faught would be cannon fodder for guys like Chagaev, Iggy, Oleg, or Peter. And Joe was chinny !

Why would Louis being born later make any, never mind such a big difference :blood Would his 1979 jaw be much better? :roll: Or are you implying he'd be much bigger? Now you're into the 225 lb Marciano or Dempsey specualtions. I've done them myself. But I'm analyzing the 6'1" 200 lb Joe Louis vs Wlad or other top current HWs. :deal Joe would be stopped. The only way JL can be considered a top 5 all time HW is p4p. Same for other top "HWs" of the past.

 

its all subjective anyway, nonone can actually preidcit the outcome as it'll never happen!

 

It is, to me, a pick em fight thought, ita ll depends on the approaches of the fighters, if JL tests Wlads chin, it could be all over quickly, but if wlad boxes and uses his jab, itll be a bad night for Joe!

 

Are we talking Joe Loius or Joe Frazier????? Smokin Joe would be Frazier
the Brown Bomber would be Joe Louis

either man loses to Wlad...however if he gets caught flush by either guy he might be in trouble

I doubt seriously that Wlad would stick his chin out and wait to be hit...so Barring that wlad wins both by KO

 

If Wlad tests Joe's chin it'll be over even quicker :yep

If Wlad can get up from Peter's rabbit punches or Sanders bombs he might survive a JL KD.

 

Louis losing to Marciano was Joe Louis in a sorry state and probably already brain damaged at that point.

Joe Louis is a beautiful fighter to watch. He has some great skills. But by today's standards, he would be a big cruiser or the smallest of the heavies. As much as I love the man, and being from Michigan has a lot to do with that, I don't see him as being too competitive amongst the bigger HW fighters.

 

I understand Wlads bigger and more powerful but fighters back then were tougher, let me ask you this how many guys on here sees Wlad holding the title for 12 years let alone 12 more months. Louis was a great who would out box Wlad on his best day, the man was so accurate when thought fighters like Baer and Shmelling Louis knew exactly where to hit you to knock you out cold. Loius would end up using Wlads size against him he was that good, and yes he would knockout a panic attacked proned fighter like Wladimir Klitschko.

 

Well, we're talking about Joe Louis, not Joe Frazier.

 

Joe Louis, the best hwt of all time? Wlad better than Louis? It's like you want people to call you names but I rather see you writing more xtremely funny threads like this one and play Alice in Wladerland - you r a very funny guy bro!

 

I'd rather not physically alter them....

 

I would have my money on Klitschko.

 

Pound for pound, there has never been a heavyweight that combined skill and technique like Joe Louis and there never will be another one.

 

If size meant all that much, then Jess Willard, Primo Carnera, and Nico Valuev would be retired undefeated all time greats.Louis would flatten Wlad with the first six inch straight right that touched his jaw.