wlad klitschko vs good/great pressure fighters

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He didn't get a chance against Foreman. He was blown away by bowling uppercuts required by Foreman to neutralize Joe's bob and waeve.
    Wlad hasn't the speed or the uppercut of Foreman. Wlad near got done in by Sam Peter who isn't quater of the fighter of Frazier was.
    All you have is Wlad wins by the hug cos you know he cant box for ****.
    This is boxing , not mma.
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::rofl

    Bonecrusher was a C level fighter. And "better clinching abilities" :huh

    Isn't that disgraceful and cheating to you? Why are you trying to praise someones 'clinching' ability?
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Tyson beat Smith.
    Brewster and Sanders were C level and Wlad LOST to them. Purrity was no level.
    Im not praising his clinching. Thats all he could do in the fight , just like all Wlad would be able to do.
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Sanders beat Wlad with legit pressure and pinpoint power punching.

    Purrity didn't do anything but lose every round and Wlad literally fell over. Puritty didn't even punch him he just collapsed in the corner.

    Brewster won a war of attrition. He landed a huge left hook and couldn't put Wlad down. Wlad just collapsed.

    So Sanders way of beating Wlad is more indicative of what someone needs to do not try and 'get inside'.

    Tyson was more than willing to clinch with Bonecrusher also. Great video on youtube of Teddy Atlas discussing that fight in a documentary that didn't air on HBO about the outcome of an Ali-Tyson fight. Point being Ali would have clinched Tyson and he would have accepted Atlas called it Tyson's 'silent agreement' you should look it up and watch it very informative.
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Bonecrusher better than Wlad?

    Frazier weaker than anyone Wlad fought?

    This is just a shallow battle of extreme hyperbole now.

    Rico is the only guy talking sense here.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    .Brewster roughed up Wlad on the inside and that left hook ended the fight. Wlad was forced to fight properly that night which gave Brewsters the opportunitys needed to take him out.
    Getting inside is still the best way to beat Wlad. Just because Pabon wouldn't allow it doesn't make it any less of a reality.
    Tyson was a very fast and accurate puncher. He would do in one what Brewsters did in 5.
    We can't go comparing Wlad to Ali here. Apples and oranges.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wrong. The history books show Brewster was better than Wlad.

    Brewster was retired and banned from boxing when Wlad offered him the chance to collect a loser check.
    The rematch was meaningless.

    Brewster was better than Wlad. Its a fact.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Are You a dumbass?

    Wlad beat Shfford therefor he proved to be the better man.

    How was Wlad the better man in defeat against Brewster?
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    The issue isn't if he could fool medical tests of today. Maybe he could have had lazer surgery today? At any rate...

    The issue is that this "Joe Frazier would be the weakest WEAKEST opponent Wladimir ever fought EVER!" comment is absolute rubbish. This is comment is just as ignorant as the Wlad is no better than Bruno or Bonecrusher nonsense.

    With wins over Machen, Chuvalo, Mathis, D. Jones, Foster, Ellis, Quarry, Bonavena, and Muhammad Ali, he would have the most accomplished resume of anyone Wlad ever fought. Legally blind in his left eye or not, you could also make a case for him being the best fighter he would have ever fought as well. He is indeed a legend of the sport, period.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    Boxed Ears, when were Wlads prime years in your opinion?
     
  11. The Predator

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    Ali had trouble stoppig Frazier and he was fast, real fast and hard to hit. Wlad is slow and can´t defend him self if someone puts together more than two punches, if he don´t lean on them all night long. Frazier would take him out in three rounds.

    Tyson would be the worst fight ever for Wlad, he would be scared shitless even before the fight and he would not be able to hit Tyson once before Mike is on him and unleash all his hard punches. I am not joking, I think Tyson would kill him in the first round. Wlad is a tall crappy boxer in an era so bad it´s not worth calling boxing.
    Stop comparing The K brothers with Ali and the all time greats, it is just a joke.
     
  12. VG_Addict

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    That's why I say Arreola would have a chance at beating Wlad, with his pressure and power.
     
  13. Lennox

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    Come on dude.

    Arreola is way too stationary and would get annihilated by Wlad's offensive output. About 5 Wlad jabs would make Nipples stop in his tracks.

    What happened last Saturday only went 12 rounds because Povetkin is iron chinned.
     
  14. madballster

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    And McCall was better than Lewis. He clearly knocked him out. For the rematch, Lewis got McCall out of drub regab and couldn't knock out a helpless junkie in the rematch.

    McCall was better then Lewis. Fact! That's what the history books and all boxing historians will remember.
     
  15. ticar

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    i agree with you,he really looked somehow uncoordinated against pianetta.when i see him putting combinations against mercer,wow there really is difference when you compare that with his combinations today,which look somehow sloppy and uncoordinated.

    remember manny steward didn't like chisora as an opponent for wlad!!