you mean this thread hasn't died yet. Vitaly (and Wlad but to a lesser extent) would be able to give prime tyson a tough fight, but young hungry mike under cus and soon thereafter has too much that he would not be denied. wlad especially would have to fight a perfect fight to beat tyson b/c one barrage might be all it takes vs wlad. vitaly would have a lot more room for error, but tyson's quickness and relentless attack and ability to score points on tha huge body would give him a UD at minimum over Vitaly.
I'm just curious Ruskull. Have you actually seen Tyson's opponents careers in action, or are you just combing the pages of boxrec? The reason I ask is because you're making references to fights and fighters during periods where they were either past their primes or succumbed to losses for more in depth reasons than just the listed results. For example, Bigg's loss to Francesco Damiani was a result of a stoppage due to a cut caused by a head butt-a fight that Biggs was actually winning. Did you know this, or are you just going by stats on paper?
when Biggs fought Tyson he was done, but in his prime he did have the finest natural talent i ever saw.. when he boxed Damiani, Mason and anyone after 89 he was all but done.. But as an amateur he was awesome .. A match for WK... As a pro he was like Lou Duva said about his own man.. (A headcase)
Uh, no. When did I mention power? Wlad's jab is better I think, it was harder, more accurate and consistant, at least from what I've seen from both. Theres nothing more nuts than claiming this matchup is 75-25 into Wlad's favor, considering this is one HORRIBLE matchup for him.
No I didn't say this, and you know that I didn't. I simply said that Lewis was BETTER than Klitschko, not that they weren't comparable. I think the concencus is that Lewis generally had better skills and a tad more toughness than Wlad did, but for whatever reason, you chose to avoid the issue of Tyson vs Wlad by throwing Lewis's name in there and I don't know why.
Klitschko and Lewis are quite different animals, One is an all time great and the other is a very fragile heavyweight with a fabulous offence but a very unstable power of recovery... Lewis met fire with fire very often while WK prods his way to victory over some very untalented opponents.. Lewis almost always brought excitement while Klitschko is great he often brings solid but ordinary skills..
Tyson wouldve crushed klitschko in his prime ... Tyson in his prime was unbeatable and will forever be a big figure in US boxing history. Klitschko couldve outboxed him but Tyson with the bobbing and weaving wouldve got inside very fast and laid leather on Wlad.
you're saying he was done before he fought tyson? i thought the concensus opinion was that tyson played a large part in bringing on that decline. was biggs a coke head?
It's all good Drex, I do believe Wlad's jab is the best since Larry Holmes as I originally stated. The older greats such as Liston, Ali & Louis it's a bit tough to judge. Gene Tunney supposedly had a great jab but I can't judge since I've only seen a few short clips.
Stats on paper are really all that matters when considering a fighter's greatness right? After all, on Lennox's resume it says TKO 6 over Vitali but we all know he was behind on the cards when the doctor stopped the fight. And yes you're right, I went to Boxrec to remember Tyrell's illustrious career..................that's what it's there for, to be used as a resource.
Yes, and the Mighty William Wallace shoots fireballs form outta his ass! I clearly said the fight wouldn't be easy for Wlad as the title of this thread suggests.