Wlad made Peter look like a limited Joe Frazier for spurts

BoxingFan2010 · Sep 11, 2010

bodhi said: ↑

God, is that an aweful posting.
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:good

BoxingFan2010 · Sep 11, 2010

speck said: ↑

Good analysis but you spoil it with these meaningless comparisons with fighters from another era. It's a realm of fantasy where your claims are just as good or bad as anyone's else.
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Excellent post :good

BoxingFan2010 · Sep 11, 2010

Flash Jab said: ↑

I wish I could've seen Klitschko vs. Frazier.
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thumbsup

OBCboxer · Sep 11, 2010

PetethePrince said: ↑

Obviously Peter is a fat, slow, no stamina limited skill brawler. He was pretty clueless on the inside, and Wlad controlled and held him pretty well. Either way, even though he doesn't have half the skills, speed, stamina, or defense Wlad's predictability made Peter look like a very fat and limited Joe Frazier at times. The British announcers mentioned this but I scoffed and laughed, but I actually say that. Wlad throws that 1-2, 1, 1-2 lefthook, 1 lefthook. He generally starts with the jab, and doesn't throw the right hand lead much. He also rarely throws an uppercut, although he did occasionally today. He seems to sometimes telegraph his shots. But Peter was making him miss in awful lot more than he should've. Either Peter impressed defensively, or Wlad looked predictable. A bit of both? At the end of the day I'll give Wlad a B for his performance. Great finish, though. He just needs to do that more. Instead of clinching, he should back or move laterally and unload more. Peter's eye was closed and helpless in defending and really coming back with anything. I can't imagine what the real Joe Frazier would've done

The thing is... if Wlad were to fight in another era or if he were to fight against a legitimate fighter his holding would not be tolerated. The first 5 rounds I saw 5 clinches after every 20 seconds. And Peter accepted it after taking some power shots, no doubt. But Wlad leans in and puts Peter in a chokehold at times so you can't say he doesn't initiate or encourage it even if Peter is content. If Eddie Futch was infuriated by Ali's holding in the second Ali-Frazier fight I can't imagine how he would react seeing Wlad's holding. Wlad is the champ, and everyone else is chumps and he generally fights in Germany so it's never going to be a serious problem. But it is when Tyson fights Lennox Lewis.
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In the first few minutes of the fight I saw the same similarities.

PetethePrince · Sep 11, 2010

BoxingFan2010 with three contradictory postings in a row. But too dense to even notice.

SplitDecision · Sep 11, 2010

BoxingFan2010 said: ↑

:good
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How can you thumb up that you dense piece o shite?atsch

SplitDecision · Sep 11, 2010

BoxingFan2010 said: ↑

Excellent post :good
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and this?atsch

cuchulain · Sep 11, 2010

derrick said: ↑

Wlad continues to put boxing deeper and deeper in the hole. That fight was boring as hell. Wlad jabbing and holding as always. Beating up on left over bums. Wlad is the first heavyweight champion ever to be banned by US TV. And with good reason. Next time I bet he want even be on ESPN360. We turned the fight off after about 5 rounds. Not many people want to sit a watch Wlad jab and hold when someone gets inside. HBO did the right thing to drop this bum. Boxing is dead. HBO will team up with UFC soon.
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The prophet speak !

Here's his earlier prophecy:

derrick said: ↑

LoL wlad can't even make it on usa TV. You have to watch it online hahahaha. What a joke. Pacman and Mayweather are selling big PPV events and Wlad can't even make it on TV. Thats what he gets for fighting his boring cheating style. Watch Saturday night, Wlad is going to be jabbing and holding like always. No way in hell he will KO Peter. It will be a long boring fight unless Peter gets lucky and lands a punch on that egg chin.
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****ing idiot. :yep

derrick said: ↑

We turned the fight off after about 5 rounds.
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And ****ing LIAR

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SplitDecision · Sep 11, 2010

BoxingFan2010 said: ↑

thumbsup
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Klitschko Frazier would have been over by round 5 and would have been just as **** as tonight, the only difference being that klitschko would have been KO'd. Come to think of it, that would be great to watch!

Rock0052 · Sep 11, 2010

In what era was there not heavyweight clinching?

kriszhao · Sep 12, 2010

Rock0052 said: ↑

In what era was there not heavyweight clinching?
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I know huh Go back and watch Ali hang all over Frazier.. :deal

PATSYS · Sep 12, 2010

PetethePrince said: ↑

Obviously Peter is a fat, slow, no stamina limited skill brawler. He was pretty clueless on the inside, and Wlad controlled and held him pretty well. Either way, even though he doesn't have half the skills, speed, stamina, or defense Wlad's predictability made Peter look like a very fat and limited Joe Frazier at times. The British announcers mentioned this but I scoffed and laughed, but I actually say that. Wlad throws that 1-2, 1, 1-2 lefthook, 1 lefthook. He generally starts with the jab, and doesn't throw the right hand lead much. He also rarely throws an uppercut, although he did occasionally today. He seems to sometimes telegraph his shots. But Peter was making him miss in awful lot more than he should've. Either Peter impressed defensively, or Wlad looked predictable. A bit of both? At the end of the day I'll give Wlad a B for his performance. Great finish, though. He just needs to do that more. Instead of clinching, he should back or move laterally and unload more. Peter's eye was closed and helpless in defending and really coming back with anything. I can't imagine what the real Joe Frazier would've done

The thing is... if Wlad were to fight in another era or if he were to fight against a legitimate fighter his holding would not be tolerated. The first 5 rounds I saw 5 clinches after every 20 seconds. And Peter accepted it after taking some power shots, no doubt. But Wlad leans in and puts Peter in a chokehold at times so you can't say he doesn't initiate or encourage it even if Peter is content. If Eddie Futch was infuriated by Ali's holding in the second Ali-Frazier fight I can't imagine how he would react seeing Wlad's holding. Wlad is the champ, and everyone else is chumps and he generally fights in Germany so it's never going to be a serious problem. But it is when Tyson fights Lennox Lewis.
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Ali holds far more often than Wlad.

I do not understand why Lewis-Tyson is mentioned here. Lewis did occassional holding that is very normal.

MMJoe · Sep 12, 2010

PetethePrince said: ↑

Obviously Peter is a fat, slow, no stamina limited skill brawler. He was pretty clueless on the inside, and Wlad controlled and held him pretty well. Either way, even though he doesn't have half the skills, speed, stamina, or defense Wlad's predictability made Peter look like a very fat and limited Joe Frazier at times. The British announcers mentioned this but I scoffed and laughed, but I actually say that. Wlad throws that 1-2, 1, 1-2 lefthook, 1 lefthook. He generally starts with the jab, and doesn't throw the right hand lead much. He also rarely throws an uppercut, although he did occasionally today. He seems to sometimes telegraph his shots. But Peter was making him miss in awful lot more than he should've. Either Peter impressed defensively, or Wlad looked predictable. A bit of both? At the end of the day I'll give Wlad a B for his performance. Great finish, though. He just needs to do that more. Instead of clinching, he should back or move laterally and unload more. Peter's eye was closed and helpless in defending and really coming back with anything. I can't imagine what the real Joe Frazier would've done

The thing is... if Wlad were to fight in another era or if he were to fight against a legitimate fighter his holding would not be tolerated. The first 5 rounds I saw 5 clinches after every 20 seconds. And Peter accepted it after taking some power shots, no doubt. But Wlad leans in and puts Peter in a chokehold at times so you can't say he doesn't initiate or encourage it even if Peter is content. If Eddie Futch was infuriated by Ali's holding in the second Ali-Frazier fight I can't imagine how he would react seeing Wlad's holding. Wlad is the champ, and everyone else is chumps and he generally fights in Germany so it's never going to be a serious problem. But it is when Tyson fights Lennox Lewis.
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You are saying Peter is like Frazer except he lacks Frazer-like skills and Frazer-like tenacity. Well yeah, me too I'm like Frazer in the same capcity.

Farmboxer · Sep 12, 2010

Vlad is excellent boxer with great skills, so is Vitali. They are the best today by far.

Brit Sillynanny · Sep 12, 2010

the_brigand said: ↑

Peter handed a huge left on Wlad right in the middle of the chest and made Wlad buckle in the 3rd(?)... but I think the connect was more the product of an accident then aim.
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