Wlad never goes to the body

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  1. Jаck

    Jаck P4P King Full Member

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    What makes it even more interesting is that his opponents know that only their head will be targeted, which in theory should make it a lot easier for them.
    But the end result remains the same - they all lose.

    And now there are these internet smart-asses teaching Wlad how he should box :lol:
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad has been schooled so deeply to fight one way to protect his chin and stamina that he has often shown a lack of adaptability in the ring. Nobody is expecting him to become and inside fighter he simply doesn't have the skill set to do that and it's too late in his career to learn.

    But he could have made little adaptations such as going to the body to have made the fight with Jennings easier. Another thing he should have done to over come with the high guard was to hook around it instead of sticking with the straight punches. Wlad has a beautiful straight right but he was rarely able to pierce Jennings guard with it, had he hooked the shot a little he could have gone around the high guard and gotten to Jennings jaw.

    I will give him kudos for at least trying to attempt the uppercut on several occasions though it's clear he's uncomfortable with that punch and he simply doesn't have the technique or the know how to throw in effectively. From the outside it has no accuracy and on the inside it's nothing but an arm punch with no leverage at all.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're right, Wlad fight one way and yet other than Jennings last night very few opponents make any attempt to adapt their own style to take advantage of Wlad's flaws.

    Jennings ability to use the right tactics, head movement, high guard, trying to beat Wlad to the punch, working the body, being rough in the clinches, pushing his head into Wlad's throat on the inside to create space to work is why I was so impressed with him.

    He even at one point did what everyone should so against Wlad and turned sideways when Wlad went to clinch meaning his shoulder creates a big gap to work inside and Wlad to reach his arms around his opponent leaves his head unguarded which isn't the case when his opponent is squared up in the clinch.

    To many boxers like Haye try and counter Wlad and that's never going to work. He's too big, too fast, too skilled, you'll just be left unable to pull the trigger because Wlad isn't there to hit or when he is he clinches to prevent that punch being thrown. You have to beat a jab and grabber like Wlad to the punch but few ever attempt this, they sit back and get beaten up.

    Everyone moans about Wlad clinching, but this tactic isn't some magic tactic that beats every fighter, it can be countered. No style is unbeatable especially at heavyweight where one punch can change a fight.
     
  4. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    He only keeps winning because he's allowed to hold, hold, hold,....

    Take away his holding and he becomes vulnerable.

    Him and Khan are killing boxing.

    At least, Khan goes to the body.

    Wlad just fights like an accountant.
     
  5. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he landed one straight left to the body later in the fight..perhaps the 11th? But no, he never hits the body and rarely uses an uppercut, the latter of which is perplexing
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Watch his uppercuts in the Povetkin and Jennings fights and you see why he almost never throws it. He's never really mastered the punch, when he throws it from the outside he misses by a mile, on the inside it has no leverage and power. He looks terrible when he throws the uppercut but to be fair it's a hard punch to master but it's definitely a glaring fault in his make up as a fighter.
     
  7. superman1692

    superman1692 Active Member Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about??? LOADS of HW fighters go to the body. And honesty, that second paragraph is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
     
  8. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He don't need to throw uppercuts, because he clinches when opponet gets inside.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Again cause wlad is scared to get counter with a hard shot that could ko or tko wlad. Wlad is afraid to get hit which is why he holds way too much and why he doesn't go to the body. Anybody that is a boxing fan should know this.

    You mention Tyson but the different is Tyson is a 5'11 short heavyweight fighter so of course he'll go to the body a lot.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Did you see Ali ever throw a body shot or an uppercut? :huh

    Nope. And he is the greatest of all time.
     
  11. keenly

    keenly Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad is NOT a great boxer
     
  12. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Actually, no.
    Or maybe, for a short prime time.
    He just didn't have the punch and soaked way too much punishment as a result.

    And thus his opponents weren't wearing earmuffs constantly in front of him, like they do for Wlad.
     
  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I know...!

    This is where Manny Steward is missed. If a guy has a peak a boo stick your gloves up high with the elbows locked, you step around a bit and deliver a hook to the side of the head around the guard, or jab one, then go to the body.

    Wlad has thrown some hard body shots in the past.
     
  14. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Remember Manny Steward berating Wlad in the media all those times for being happy to be lazy and close fights out?

    Used wake him up a bit, but now he's boss in training. Still untouchable, mind you, but the decline began some time ago for Wlad, and it is not physical.
     
  15. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    He lacks:
    -Body jab
    -Hitting the body
    -Inside fighting
    -No Uppercut
    -Overhand right (he only throw straight)
    -Barely uses left hook... the Pre-Steward wlad used to hook off the jab, which was awesome.. no more.. now, he clinches.