Wlad on his best night vs Prime Joe Louis, assessed with your head, not y'r heart.

Calvin Brock weighed less than 20lbs more than Louis and was less than an inch taller than him. Brock was never even close to the fighter Louis was, yet hung in there with Wlad. I won't say Wlad couldn't beat Louis. Any fighter can be beat on a given night. But if Brock could pose the problems he did against Wlad, at his size, with his skills, its absurd to think Louis wouldn't have a shot at taking him down. Brock eventually got stopped, but would you honestly compare his offensive and defensive skills to those of Louis?

 

Lmao...nice!

 

Braddock is hard to guage as a heavyweight puncher.

At light heavyweight before his hands went he was seen as a wrecking machine. A Bob Foster type with range and power. It was assumed that he would be the heir to Tommy Loughrans throne when he steped up.

As you know Braddock was plagued by brittle hands for all of his heavyweight career except during his comeback in which he clinched the title. This makes it hard to guage exactly how well his power caried up.

For whatever it is worth, Louis himself said that Braddock was the hardest hitter he had face up to that point except for Max Baer.

 

You have got to be kidding me?

 

True, Braddock's abilities were probably diminished through years of injuries, insufficient training, nutrition and arthritis. He may very well have been a better puncher earlier in his career, and may have developed further had it not been for some of the things that I just mentioned. As for Louis's comment about his power, I know for a fact that Louis reffered to Braddock as being the " toughest fighter " he ever faced. I don't recall hearing or reading anything about him being the " hardest hitter" up to that point, but it could be the case. Personally, I think Max Schmeling has to get some acknowledgment here. He really gave a tremendous performance against Louis, and beat a number of other great fighters as well. He also hands down deserved the title shot against Braddock before Joe did, but crafty deal making, and the unpopularity of Schmeling's affiliation with the Nazi regime, saw to it that another American recieved the shot first. Max Schmeling is a bit underrated as a great fighter in my opinion.

 

Thats because im always at the other forum and rarely come here but anyway, what is there to say? I have already gave an anaylsis on the fight. The only thing i see is a bunch of fans who are not willing to admit that this is a bad style match up for Louis and he would be stopped early. Greatness means nothing when it comes to a fastasy match up. Facts are facts.

 

I am strictly referring to you telling me to learn some boxing and get me facts straight, then telling me there was no reason Witherspoon - Smith was stopped other than Don King being corrupt as Witherspoon was not hurt.

:hey

 

Thats because he wasn't hurt. Don King rigged that fight as well as the others. Witherspoon's eyes were clear and he was ready to fight on. There was no 3 knockdown rule in effect. You have fighters like Juan Maruez, Ike Quarty, Mosley, Joe Louis, Ali ect that has actually been staggering and the referee let it continue and has been down more times in a fight.

One rule of mine is to never repeat myself. If you have a poster that doesn't care what you say, then why try to explain?

 

Erm, excuse me?????

You are kidding right?

 

error. sorry.

 

How do you really know this? How fast was the T-Rex? It may have been a big and lumbering creature which preyed on other big and lumbering creatures, which is why it went extinct. I think it possible that a tiger might have an easy time staying out of the way of those awful teeth, probably by getting on the back of the T-Rex and tearing it to shreds. I can see the tiger winning this by so wounding the T-Rex that it bleeds to death.

Janitor--This post has nothing to do with boxing, but I just had to respond.

 

I hope that was meant in jest. I'll have you know I'm an enormous Tyrannosaurus fan and will not stand for that kind of talk!

But seriously, T. rex had teeth the size of bananas with literally tons of force per square inch in its bite and had a light and gracile bone structure that would have made it a fairly agile creature for something of its size. Not to mention its hide would have been tougher than leather. A tiger taking it down is extremely unlikely.

 

:think Actually a Siberian Tiger would win. Giant reptiles don't do well in the snow.

 

Louis wasn't prime in his first fight with Schmeling, nor was he prime in his fight with Marciano, so the fact that he was stopped in both of those fights should not be used against him (the same could be said for Vlad versus Purity) when the question in this thread is asking about a prime Louis versus Vlad on his best night.

Just wondering: What fight was Louis at his prime and what would be Vlad's best night? Then it might be a little easier to answer the question posed in this thread.:think