Wlad Planning to Fight Haye Next?

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  1. chappie

    chappie Member Full Member

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    what was it ali said? you can only ever be the best of your times.
    while comparing fighters from different eras is fun it is ultimately futile.
    why is it a bull**** stat??it is a fair reflection of a fighters power.
    i hope he does , but lets see if now that david is up with the heavyweights his 87.5 % ko ratio stays so high.
    vitali`s is 90.24%, by the way.all at heavyweight.
    wlad`s is 84.21%,all at heavyweight
     
  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is not by any means fair reflection of fighters power.

    Vitali has higher KO percentage than Shannon Briggs, Mike Tyson, Wladimir Klitchkos or Lennox Lewis has and still he doesn’t hit as hard as any of them.

    There are too many variables like level of opposition, how the fight was stopped, was it clean KO or corner stoppage, what era were they fighting.......

    Long story short it is nothing more than a cool stat.
     
  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BTW

    Why are you mentioning all at heavyweight part?
    If mere KO percentage it is fair reflection of a fighters power, there is no need to mention what weight opposition was fought.

    All time HW power punchers

    1. Vitali Klitchko
    2. Frank Bruno
    3. David Haye
    4. Wladimir Klitchko

    Did I forget someone?
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not a Haye fan and I like Wlad but wouldn't say I am a fan. No bias here.

    Haye wouldn't beat Wlad.
     
  5. chappie

    chappie Member Full Member

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    wlad has had 50 odd fights at heavyweight,haye has had 3.if all of wlad`s fights had been at cruiserweight apart from 3 then i would call it comparable.david is one of the most powerful cruiserweights ever,no doubt,but at heavy he isn`t really a proven entity yet is he?
     
  6. chappie

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    to discount ko% as not a reflection on a fighter`s power is nonsense.you know that if you took the bare stats of a guy like mallignaggi and looked at his stoppage % you would assume he has no dig.you wopuld be correct in that assumption.just in the same way as if you looked at edwin valero`s ko%.you`d assume a big puncher and you`d be correct
     
  7. chappie

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    forgot to ask, where are you in finland?? i have finnish blood on my father`s side and we still have relatives living in a little place called timmerheidi a few hours north of helsinki
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    You can't compare KO power from lower weights on stats and you can't compare it in HW just on stats...

    Just look at Michael Moorer for instance... He was an all KO monster at LH and wasn't a big puncher at all in HW.
    Noone would argue that guys like Tua, Foreman, Shavers and Briggs are among the really big punchers of all time, but they don't always have the biggest KO percentages.
    Vitali's percentage is about the monsterpunching start of his career, until the Byrd fight shoulder injury and after that about sustaining power and accumilation of punches later in the fight. Vitali was a big puncher, but now is a volume puncher.
    Wladimir is a big puncher, but just doesn't use it enough, probably because he doesn't need to with the poor competition outside his brother.
     
  9. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    :good Although IMO Haye should fight Vitali first, he has a much better chance in that fight.
     
  10. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    Get...bent...****.
     
  11. maverock

    maverock Active Member Full Member

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    I doubt the fight will come ever, certainly not in the next 2-3 years. Why would Haye climb in the ring with Wlad when he can fight guys like Valuev or Meehan? If what we hear is true he makes good money in the UK with his PPV shows as the British fans have no problem dishing out 15 quid to see him fight C level competition.

    If Haye is smart he will become the British Ottke and keep fighting bums in front of his home audience and then retire with an unbeaten record. Excellent money for very little risk.
     
  12. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well yeah. I agree that it gives good idea who can punch and who cant.
    But ranking who is the most, powerfull pucher based on it is nonsence.

    I’m from Tampere. One of the bigger cities in Finland.

    I have never heard of Timmerheidi before, but little google search revealed, that I served in Finnish army pretty close to it.
     
  13. MikeyLo

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    If and when this fight happens it could be entertaining. From the sounds of his quotes, Wlad might actually come out aggressive and his corner won't have to plead with him to go for the KO
     
  14. Ilesey

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    That is one pathetic post.
     
  15. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    pathetic *****:verysad