Wlad-Povetkin: Here's why there was so much holding

Go back to talking about chins dumb*ss. If they were fighting by the rules of boxing Wlad would have been KO'd or DQ'd. The only reason that didn't happen is because yet again Voidimir was allowed to hold, lean, use forearms and push Povetkin's head down 20+ times a round. You clearly DKSAB and your defence of the glass jawed Voidimir goes against everything you claim to stand for. I guess you have another motive that supersedes your hatred of glass jawed fighters.

 

Wow....good post Rico:huh

 

Wlad roughed Povetkin up threw him around like a ragdoll and beat his face to where it looked like he was in a car wreck and went through the windshield.

It is the fight Povetkin should have used. Not sure why these guys don't try and rough Wlad up you are going to get a warning first so why not use elbows and fight rough? Tyson did it all the time. Ali was the King of clinching and holding behind the head. Were you crying then? Holmes held behind the head all the time. This is Heavyweight boxing why should they not be rough?

Like the late great Gil Clancy used to say a fighter shouldn't look like he is ready to go to the prom after a fighting the Heavyweight Champion. How long have you been watching boxing if you are not even aware of past champions doing the exact same thing? atsch

 

Did you not also see Tyson Fury have to use these holding, forearm, pushing, grappling tactics to beat a Cruiserweight in Steve Cunningham? Was that disgraceful too? Was it disgraceful when Lennox Lewis had to clinch, push, hold a shot to **** Mike Tyson? Was it?

I think you might should be watching Ice Skating or Badminton or something like that. Rough tactics and clinching has been going on for 100 years in Heavyweight Boxing. Jack Johnson was the pioneer of it and he was doing it against Middleweights :roflatsch

You sound like a baby just because Klitschko won. Get over it. Povetkin isn't crying why in the hell should you be? Are you that emotionally weak?

 

He fights the same way Ruiz did is because he can't take a punch. I'mm glad more people are seeing Wlad for what he is.
That was it for him on HBO.

 

This is exactly why this fight was what is was.

Except, I don't think that's either one of their styles. Seems Team Potvetkin watched the Brewster fight and were hoping someone from Hurynov's payroll woulda snuck a press credential and made Wlad gas after a few rounds of wrassling. But, that point never came. There was no poison this time. There was no sneaky underhanded mob moves. There was only Potvetkin, his corner, and his abilities.

Wlad OTOH, was fighting smartly in rds 1-3. There wasnt a ton of excessive clinching. It was typical of nervous energy surrounding the magnitude of this event. After about the 5th rd, it became apparent to Team Klitschko that Potevetkin was only going to lunge in with singe shots, then bang to the body when the clinches began. So, Banks way to counter this, was to have Wlad throw the 1-2, or even just a single jab, then initiate the lean before Potvetkin could set to punch.

UGLY as SH!T from both sides. Looked like a couple 13 y/o kids sparring in a neighborhood basement. But at the end of the day, it was the #1 vs #2 HW in the world, and that's all either needed to do to make it 12 rds.

Team Potvetkin should have instead used the lone tactic which was working. He would initiated the OH R and came in tall looking to push out of the clinch while firing the L hook on his way out. This lone working tactic missed mostly, but when it did land, there were times it was almost aesthetically pleasing in a caveman kindof way.

However, had Potvektin continued, Wlad may have adapted, and began using the lead R hand. Which may have seen a HL reel 1-punch KO.

The world MAY never KNOW. But, Potvetkin did give a good showing of himself. He was up 6 times, and continued his pursuit. He will fight again, and likely win another paper title. And we may just see this fight remade ina yr or 2. Wlad will be older, Potevektin may be smarter, and the results, may be different.:think

 

When Wlad KOs Wilder in 1 rd, Max Kellerman will be saying........


There's the dominant Tyson like Champion the world has been looking for. He's been hiding in the clinches, but tonight, for all of a round, we saw a glimpse of greatness. And HBO was right here to bring it to you.

 

Klitschko is probably the worst heavyweight champion for grabbing and clinching since the days of Jack Johnson. That's bad.
But Lennox Lewis was pretty bad.

Muhammad Ali did a hell of a lot of grabbing and holding too, certainly in his later career, A LOT of clinching. His 2nd fight with Leon Spinks was disgraceful, his 2nd fight with Frazier was bad too ... probably did it because both guys would beat him on the inside and he wasn't good enough to keep them on the outside permanently.
Boxing fans and pundits still talk about Ali as the standard for all heavyweights to follow, so it's not surprising that jab-and-grab is so popular.

 

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Ruiz NEVER had an opponent look like Povetkin did at the end of a fight. He also never knocked anyone down.

 

Your'e 100% correct. Rico. Ppl talk about how great the 90s were, but the best fighter of that era fought EXACTLY how Wlad fights. He used his height and reach when guys would let him fight on the outside, and used his size to lean on ya when guys brought the fight inside. And if he was allowed to by the other fighter, he'd throw a 1-2 then tie em up.

and this 90s HW, will almost UNDOUBTEDLY be considered the GOAT in no less than 20yrs. :think

 

Wlad was leading with his left hook all night,jumping in with it. Povetkin's defense was to duck it down to the right, so he found himself in Wlads armpit everytime. Nothing both of them could do about it really. Noone complained, neither Povetkin nor his corner.
But I wished Povetkin was this motivated for the Huck fight..

 

You are a joke and a hypocrite. You claim to be a boxing fan and chin expert, but you clearly DKSAB and you deeply love a glass jawed fraud like Voidimir. Void just cheated disgracefully for 12 rounds

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. Instead of calling the facts you lie and try to diminish solid chinned ATG fighters like Ali and Johnson.

If you care about chins, why would you diminish iron chinned Ali to inflate a glass jawed fraud like Voidimir? You are a disgrace to all you stand for.

 

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DKSAB is KO1 when ppl who actually KSAB post.

TX for KSAB. And putting last nights horrible HW title fight in perspective. :-(

 

'Why Klitschko clinched alot'

Shows image with Povetkin leading with the jab.

 

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It was kindof a hookjab, then lean.

But when Potvetkin initiated, he did have moments. He landed several powerful L hooks and OH R's coming in. He mighta done a little more when Wlad began the single shot lean tactic, but he also mighta found himself in an ER being prepped for the CT machine.