Wlad refusing to fight Haye in Vegas

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  1. Farmboxer

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  4. vnyc

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    Listen , you better keep you silly ass there in that rainy craphole called UK, coz you have no clue about states or more important New York and its huge russian speaking community .As many times as I went to MSG to watch Klits fight , I seen garden filled with russian , ukranian, polish, german and american boxing fans and this time you could add some toothless brits . So if this fight takes place here in NYC, MSG will be packed.Everybody wants to see gaye knocked out, but as always ,ghaye will run away.
     
  5. rushman

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    It's interesting to watch Haye fans defend every single action he takes, so long as it may make him more money as a result.

    Hell, apparently Wlad was meant to break a contract with his TV station for the possibility of more money.

    Everything, and anything, was justified, for the goal of more money. Haye ducking? That's ok, it's for more money. Haye taking on shitty competition? That's ok, it's for more money. Haye taking on the weakest title holder in the history of the sport? It's all, good, because the goal is to make the most money. Lying about wanting to fight the Klits? Perfectly acceptable, because it is just to make the most money.

    But if Wlad wants a fight somewhere that will make more money, then suddenly that is a problem?
     
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    I was even thinking Toronto. Imagine they put on a co-show with UFC and George St. Pierre at Rogers Centre. If Wlad could put on good show, and beat Haye senseless, a whole new audience would be exposed to boxing that are following UFC and MMA like 70's born guys like me followed WWF
     
  8. brood3

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    Pacquiao beat a great like Barrera where? Oh yeah America. If he beat him Phillippines no one would have cared. Just ask Chris John who beat Marquez in Indonesia and no one batted an eye.

    The same will happen if the fight takes place in Europe.

    Big difference, the Heavyweight division is not loaded with talent like the Featherweight division was for Pacquiao. There was no point for Haye to fight in America. No one would take him seriously fighting unknown heavyweights in America and the money would have sucked. In England he could fight unknown fighters but sell out arenas. Obviously not a difficult choice.

    If the fight takes place in America. Its a win, win for both men. Both establish their names in America. The fight has to happen in America. For boxing sakes. The rematch can be in Europe. But the first fight has to be in America.

    Hey thats the Wladimer's own fault. He put on one of the most boring fights of all time with Sultan Ibragimov. Wladimer insulted HBO with that fight. He deserved to be dumped.
     
  9. p4pBute

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    Where to begin:think

    Barrea was a HBO figter when he lost to pacman, manny was 4-1 underdog, i know, i won money. So my point with manny was this, he beat a well known boxer, who had his own PPV, an sold them well, marcos was considered a p4p great at the time. Put it this way, if manny would of beat chris john that night in america, he wouldn't be at the same hype he is at now, PPV now every fight....p.s. i think he is p4p 1

    Hayes would need to fight a few times a year to build some hype, instead of talking, an some of that will start on the undercards of name fighters like khan in america, wlad fought on lenniox lewis undercard, that was being wbo champ, an selling out big areana in germany. Hayes could of fought will say ray austion that night, just to get his name on the radar.

    Your last two points: Hayes it should make you happy, to a small part, cost wlad HBO, when they were set up to fight last year, HBO was going to run it, then hayes pulled out, so wlad said they were going to use chagaev instead, well HBO said no, they did not want to use him an told wlad to wait for Hayes,,,wlad said NO, then went to espn (another american channel), to me that is the beef that sent him packing, not borring fights, he had good viewer ship (nice ratings),,,they showed him twice on saturdays, an i seen some of the numbers were comparable to other HBO boxers. Wlad stood up for his fans by not pushing back the fight, an HBO blasted him for it, he had two fights after sultan an was set up for a third with Hayes....:thumbsup
     
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    Exactly Right....



    we've all wanted this fight... it has to be neutral ground.....****ing kltschkos might as well be german! they want to fight so much there!... I'm ukrainian & they bore me to death!
     
  11. Stickandmove

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    Haye prefers to make his money taking easy fights. The evidence is there in his last 3 fights - Valuev, Ruiz, Audley Harrison.

    Haye will probably try to continue making money the easy way.

    Yes of course he would make more money fighting a Klit. but the risk factor jumps from 1/10 to 10/10. Haye ain't up for it.

    Ruslan Chagaev next I reckon.
     
  12. jisi

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    Samuel Peter holds against Wlad not Wlad.

    The ref. said to Peter "don´t hold" and to Wlad "don´t push!"

    Nothing wrong with tactical holding, it is a part of boxing!

    Wlad ko´s his opponents not with holding.
     
  13. Stickandmove

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    Somewhere along the way, David Haye has sold out and lost his bottle. My theory is that he got rocked in sparring, and realized there was no way he could take punches from Wlad or Vitali. Haye has pretty much admitted in interviews that there are question marks over his chin.

    Perhaps Wlad's threat to turn Haye to a 'pizza face' scared him.

    But Haye has definitely lost the balls to face a Klit.
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Just get Haye into a ring with Vlad and we will find out! Vlad will knock Haye out, so will Vitali. Vlad was drugged in Vegas, no doubt about it. Vlad's drugging proves that the haters will do anything to destroy the Klitschkos. They know they can't beat them fairly in a ring, so they will cheat anyway they can. I saw it happen years ago. Vitali and Vlad are not fools, they will never fight in Vegas again. The proof is so obvious, yet America boxing media was so biased that they did all they could to stop investigation. It's a shame we can't have fair fights. Take a close look at all the bad decisions in boxing...........
     
  15. mofo2

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    Wlad has a W at the beginning not a V...being such a Big fan I would have thought you would at least known how to spell his name :hi:

    The logic you have here defies belief, are you like 12 or something to insinuate he was drugged:lol: are you using large doses of crack yourself or has the Scizo medication medication merely worn off :hi: