Wlad says "It was my head Haye was holding - so it's my fight!"

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  1. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember reading an article about how Shannon Briggs was denied a chance to fight against Wlad, he even called him out live during a press confrence he was having for an up-comming fight. I'm not saying Briggs would of beat Wlad, but he extremely powerful, especially early in fights where his stamina dont come into play yet, and we all know with Wlads weak chin, anythings possible.:yep
     
  2. MrMagic

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    Fact: Wladimirs lawyers contacted Shannon Briggs handlers. And they didn't want the fight at that time.

    So again, your **** is crushed, literally.
    Find another tune, because yours aint working.:-(
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    You are now bashing Wlad for taking two rounds to Ray Austin? This **** is getting downright amazing.:rofl


    Tell me Punisher... being the big Sam Peter fan that you are... How long did it take Sam Peter to finish the amazing Robert Hawkins? Oh yeah... that fight went the distance.:lol: How about Jameel McCline? Oh yeah... that one went the distance too and Sam Peter was decked 3 times and barely won. As a matter of fact.... Sam Peter has only stopped 2 opponents in his last 8 fights!:lol: Wlad has only had 2 fights go the distance with him in the last 8 years! You talk **** with absolutely no ground to stand on.

    So which is it? Is Sam Peter just a timid fighter, or does he simply lack any real punching power?:think Possibly he is just such an awful boxer that he can't find the target? Explain this to me... because clearly by the stance that you take with Wlad, you should have something to say about this.
     
  4. Punisher33

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    You made your point, though i look at Thompson and the latest version of Rahman, and especially Austin, as lesser oppenents, than the fighters you mentioned, certainly not as good as "Bonecrusher" and Tillis IMO.

    Hawkins had a proven chin when he fought Peter, Peter's team knew he needed some rounds, and they picked Hawkins for a reason, a stay busy fight if you will, while he was waiting to fight Maskaev for the title.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Wow, you read an article? Well... I guess that settles it.:-( All that **** talk about "FINALLY, FOR ONCE Wlad steps up to the plate when his number is called"... and this is all you got?:lol:

    Wlad sent Briggs an offer, and Briggs refused. Then, Wlad sets up a fight of his own, and Briggs decides to run his mouth after the fact... THEN Briggs goes out and gets his ears boxed off by Ibragimov and hasn't fought since. Wlad then goes right after Iggy and beats him. Yeah... what a duck job. You really are out of the loop.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Bull****. Sam Peter can get all the rounds that he wants in the GYM. He couldn't finish the job against a D level fighter like Hawkins.... who had been knocked out in 4 by Maskaev. I would suggest that you stop running your mouth about Wlad not finishing fights fast enough when your favorite fighter can't seem to finish them at all.
     
  7. Punisher33

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    Well, both McCline, Hawkins, and Toney all have good or great chins. It took the 02, aggressive version of Wlad, what? 11 rounds to finish McCline, which looked to be more like his infamous stamina issues than Wlad's punching power.

    Sam Peter is far from a timid fighter, we all know that. Sam has heaviest hands in the division, just ask Emanuel Steward, who has already said Sam hits harder than Wlad, after his fight with Maskaev. Samuel does have issues with his accuracy, I wont debate with you their, but when his signature punch does meet it's target, it's a "Nightmare" for anyone.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    It must not meet it's target very often.:deal Once again, you should probably stop running your mouth about fighting getting finished fast enough for your liking... when the fighter that your favorite fighter can't finish them at all.
     
  9. MrMagic

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    Realistically, his nightmare punch is the rabbit punch.

    Im being honest.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    :lol: I love how he excuses Peter for not knocking out McCline.... but Wlad probably still didn't do it fast enough when McCline couldn't respond after the 10th round.
     
  11. Punisher33

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    The Briggs/Iggy fight was actually more enertaining to watch, surprising enough. Wlad looked like **** against Iggy, I havent seen him that bad since he was bounced all over the ring by Peter a few years back. Wlad looked scared that night, that much was obvious, he barely even threw his right hand for fear of being countered by the much smaller man, I'm glad the American crowd let him know what they fought him after the fight.
     
  12. Punisher33

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    It's the overhand right, the same one that knocked Wlad on his ass.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    So Wlad at his worst in your eyes still dominated Peter in 10 of 12 rounds? Wow, that doesn't say much for your hero. Then again... Sam Peter really hasn't had much to be proud about in his entire career.

    I seriously doubt that you watched Iggy vs Briggs. I honestly doubt that you watch much boxing at all judging by your posts. You said that Wlad was aggressive vs McCline, when in reality Wlad was probably more layed back and disengaged throughout most of that fight than he was against Ibragimov. Yet, the minute that he turned on the gas, down when McCline. Are you saying that Briggs getting his ears boxed off by Iggy looked better than Wlad flat out dominating Ibragimov?:rofl Only a hater like you would actually consider on Champion completely shutting out another undefeated champion in a unification fight as "looking like ****". I understand that you don't have enough boxing knowledge to understand the ins and outs of a fight... but my 4 year old has a better grasp on reality than you do. When you have one fighter 6' 7" tall.... against a much shorter opponent, who is a counterpuncher... who is also leaning back down, and away... REFUSING to make a fight out of it. You are in for a slow paced fight. It isn't Wlad's job to start fighting like a moron (something that you are probably used to following Peter)... and drape himself over Iggy in order to try and prove something to somebody like you. Wlad was boxing his ear off, and Iggy couldnt and WOULDN'T do anything about it. Not every fight and style match-up is going to create sparks in the ring. If you followed the sport a little bit closer you would probably have understood that by now. Also, maybe if you actually studied Ibragimov's fights, you would see that ALWAYS uses this tactic against taller fighters, to bring then down to his level, take them off balance, and pick them apart. Wlad was too smart to fall for that trap, and too graet of a boxer for Ibragimov to do anything else effective.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    There was only one true knockdown in the fight... and even that was kicked off by Peter hitting Wlad in the back of the head and causing him to lose his equilibrium. Lampley even pointed it right before Peter acted like he was doing something special. What's hilarious is that even with Wlad's equilibrium gone... Peter is still such an awful finisher that he couldn't finish the job. Especially since according to you... Wlad has such a glass chin, and looked so horrible that night. Sam Peter, according to your standards, and opinions... must be one of the worst boxers, weakest punchers, and worst finishers in history.
     
  15. jcrh22

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    I think Haye wants wlad and that is why he took the picture of him with the head, as at that time he was working out a deal with vitali .... so clever work by haye.