Wlad seemingly not that interested in David Haye anymore.

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  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As long as this fight happens sometime in 2011, then I have no issues. I'm getting tired of the back and forth BS though. Just get this fight done already.
     
  2. undisputedhype

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    i think wlad will be hayes next fight despite sauerland taking a slice.

    the biggest payday will be fighting vitali IMO, due to him fighting Lennox Lewis in the past make him more of a name to the british public

    if Haye believes he can beat Wlad then he shouldnt have a problem taking on wlad right now

    IMO the fight will happen in the spring
     
  3. the quiet man

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    the truth is starting to come out now, does wladimir want this fight or not?
    why on earth would he refuse to fight in vegas?
    when haye said he did'nt like the way the klitschko's did business, we are starting to see what he meant.
     
  4. dvb

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    i think the haye v klitschkos fight wont happen till klitschko dont have saureland to deal with/haye is free of saureland.

    (haye vs chageav/adamek-vitali vs solis- wlad vs chisora/povetkin)

    in one fights time if haye has to fight the ill plodding chageav,although i cant see it as he wont be sanctioned by uk,haye has no need to have to go to gemany.maybe in U.S it could happen,but then again,haye on german tv again would get his name even more known in germany than klitschko are known in the UK.

    if you watch the booth boente vid,boente is the one that hints for booth to have haye to want to fight out his contract with saureland.

    he admits the klitschko asked for 3 options or 3 matches vs both klitschkos!.

    he seemed content on talking about years old contracts and not on the here and now talks.even admitting it was finkel last doing the latest talks!."talked 2 years ago".

    so he and finkel both do same job,and both get things wrong,finkel said wlad had a back injury,then boente said it was a tear in the abs?

    of course klitschkos dont want to do business with saureland and the other german tv channel.i dont blame them,but be honest and clear about it,dont contradict themselves with haye doesnt want to fight we do,when the saureland biz is still an issue!.

    in that vid,boente clearly pushed to convince booth to have haye get rid of saureland by fighting his next fight vs someone else.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEtzG5yrU38[/ame]

    8:25 till 8:45 in video "maybe best for you waiting till that 3rd option with saureland is gone,smart move,why give saureland percentage"

    they dont want haye & klitschkos pot of revenue going to saureland.

    but then he says vitali can fight haye("we can do tht fight rite away,madatories not really a problem"




    only if its in america,or somewhere neutral does that fight happen.

    if haye can avoid the waste of time mandatory then he would be the one who would end up with adamek to fight next,

    adamek has aleady stated he would rather face haye as the "Easier" way to a title,and haye would offer him better deal than either klitschko does,no rematches x 3,better split of purse ect,on hbo,newark (usa) or in london.

    i think it will be haye that will be better off than the klitschkos will be without haye.

    booth to boente"are we looking to maximise revenues for the bout"

    boente"absolutely"

    well explain this boente-- (refusing to let klitschkos fight on hbo ever again:
    When I asked Boente directly if that meant they would take less money from Showtime for a Haye fight, he said, "Yes, absolutely."


    http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/5380576

    Haye will get the better opponents first,he is more wanted in USA to be on major networks,he is seen as the easier smaller guy to go agiasnt,he is massive in the uk and well known in germany too,he is more exciting to watch,more dangerous for him to get a win or more likely for him too lose due to his mythically bad chin and stamina.


    im sure wlad will fight the lively and dangerously experienced chisora like he should have done,vitali fight the brave in shape solis.

    boente can have his 50% uk tv money,IF either klitschko wins,that if i was booth is what i would say.


    and if boente came back and said what about robberies,bad judges/referees,cuts
    well who ever wins ,will win by KO,lets all be honest!.

    get in neutral judges ect anyway,have it in neutral ground as it is anyway.

    if its cuts,scorecards then,if no real fair end,rematch right away.
     
  5. CHEF

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    exactly... but typical Haye... he wont tell us the truth... he will start talks with Wlad...ask (demand) things he knows ahead of time Team Klitschko will say NO so he can say..."I tired but they didnt want to fight me"..all along knowing he would fight Chagaev and end the options with saurland

    thats also why I know the idea of Vegas from Haye is BULL**** as Haye would have to pay a huge % to GBP
     
  6. CHEF

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    wrong:-(
     
  7. CHEF

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    WRONG. he never flat out refused... watch the interview again buddy

    Boente even said something about open talks
     
  8. dvb

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    i think the haye v klitschkos fight wont happen till klitschko dont have saureland to deal with/haye is free of saureland.

    (haye vs chageav/adamek-vitali vs solis- wlad vs chisora/povetkin)

    in one fights time if haye has to fight the ill plodding chageav,although i cant see it as he wont be sanctioned by uk,haye has no need to have to go to gemany.maybe in U.S it could happen,but then again,haye on german tv again would get his name even more known in germany than klitschko are known in the UK.

    if you watch the booth boente vid,boente is the one that hints for booth to have haye to want to fight out his contract with saureland.

    he admits the klitschko asked for 3 options or 3 matches vs both klitschkos!.

    he seemed content on talking about years old contracts and not on the here and now talks.even admitting it was finkel last doing the latest talks!."talked 2 years ago".

    so he and finkel both do same job,and both get things wrong,finkel said wlad had a back injury,then boente said it was a tear in the abs?

    of course klitschkos dont want to do business with saureland and the other german tv channel.i dont blame them,but be honest and clear about it,dont contradict themselves with haye doesnt want to fight we do,when the saureland biz is still an issue!.

    in that vid,boente clearly pushed to convince booth to have haye get rid of saureland by fighting his next fight vs someone else.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEtzG5yrU38[/ame]

    8:25 till 8:45 in video "maybe best for you waiting till that 3rd option with saureland is gone,smart move,why give saureland percentage"

    they dont want haye & klitschkos pot of revenue going to saureland.

    but then he says vitali can fight haye("we can do tht fight rite away,madatories not really a problem"




    only if its in america,or somewhere neutral does that fight happen.

    if haye can avoid the waste of time mandatory then he would be the one who would end up with adamek to fight next,

    adamek has aleady stated he would rather face haye as the "Easier" way to a title,and haye would offer him better deal than either klitschko does,no rematches x 3,better split of purse ect,on hbo,newark (usa) or in london.

    i think it will be haye that will be better off than the klitschkos will be without haye.

    booth to boente"are we looking to maximise revenues for the bout"

    boente"absolutely"

    well explain this boente-- (refusing to let klitschkos fight on hbo ever again:
    When I asked Boente directly if that meant they would take less money from Showtime for a Haye fight, he said, "Yes, absolutely."


    http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/5380576

    Haye will get the better opponents first,he is more wanted in USA to be on major networks,he is seen as the easier smaller guy to go agiasnt,he is massive in the uk and well known in germany too,he is more exciting to watch,more dangerous for him to get a win or more likely for him too lose due to his mythically bad chin and stamina.


    im sure wlad will fight the lively and dangerously experienced chisora like he should have done,vitali fight the brave in shape solis.

    boente can have his 50% uk tv money,IF either klitschko wins,that if i was booth is what i would say.


    and if boente came back and said what about robberies,bad judges/referees,cuts
    well who ever wins ,will win by KO,lets all be honest!.

    get in neutral judges ect anyway,have it in neutral ground as it is anyway.

    if its cuts,scorecards then,if no real fair end,rematch right away.
     
  9. dvb

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    and watch that video,boente does not even answer the question of open public talks,he just flat out ignores it!. thats why booth says he(boente) did not answer his question with a simple yes or no.

    then booth says for boente to call him,setting up talks,no pre conditions.

    but both sides hate each other,so finkel and booth,or schaefer and boente/finkel will be doing the talks.

    first thing they sort is the mandatories situation.

    then where the fight will take place.

    then how to solve the revenue split quarrel.
     
  10. bonds

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    Ummm that sounds like all the Klitschkos have been fighting lately...
     
  11. BrooklynMumin

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  12. PolishPummler

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    Oh yeah we all forgot Wlad pulled out of the fight:thumbsup
     
  13. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who gives a **** about Haye anymore.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    I'll wait until we hear exactly what happens with negotiations first before placing blame on either side in this particular situation.
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Klitschkos dont even need Haye he needs them