Wlad spoiling his legacy?

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  1. juhave

    juhave Member Full Member

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    I really feel that Wlad spoils his legacy if he will fight Brown instead of Joshua. What do you think guys? I have always respected him for fighting the best opponents (excluding his brother), but this would be a shameful ducking.
     
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He's going to be the 2nd only 4 time heavyweight champ in history because of that move, and the 2nd oldest to regain a portion of the championship... He's on the virge of making history either way.

    Of course a Joshua fight would be much better, but historically he's making moves.
     
  3. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    LOL!

    What legacy?
    Vlad's legacy is a lifetime of steroid cheating, inferior Golovkin level opponents and advantages based on size.
    He's literally a 6'7" KGB experimental Test tube boxing bum.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Nah, his legacy is secure.

    If anything, beating SHW punchers will improve his legacy due to how damaging the Brewster loss was.

    It's a bit **** choosing Browne over Joshua but hopefully it's just a ploy yo get an even split when they do fight
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be a disappointing way to end a career but nobody really ends their career in a satisfactory manner.

    It doesn't really effect his legacy in my opinion, he's done what he has done and him simply looking for the least risk isn't exactly out of his normal behaviour. He won his first major belt against Byrd who was the perfect style for him and he's well known to cover all bases during negotiations to ensure victory and his style in the ring is to minimalise risk.

    He plays the percentages which is smart and in part is probably why he's been successful for so long. Sure it doesn't inspire or raise the heart beat but his reign in general has been a bit dull, at least in the ring anyway. So why should we expect the end of his career to end in a bang, that's not his nature, not his way.
     
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  6. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it doesn't hurt Wlad's rep because he's already carved out his own ATG legacy over the last 20 odd years. Joshua was a 10 year old kid when Wlad won his 1st world title and it's a testament to his longevity in the sport that he's still in the position to make these superfights.

    Still it's disappointing that he's winding down his career by ducking Joshua to fight a bum like Brown. It shows a clear departure from the fighter who was willing to take career risks and fight the best guys available to him. The move signifies that even Wlad realizes the end is near. He's probably looking to exit the sport on his own terms rather than on the canvas like so many washed up champions of the past have before him.
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    One side of me respects Wlad because he dominated HW for 10 years

    Another side of me feels he ruined the glamour division for a decade by making it duller than dull.

    Boxing may literally never recover from it. Wlad the destroyer !!!
     
  8. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    According to Hearn, the split was already even (unless I heard wrong).
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Wladimir has reached the stage where there is little he can do that would have a negative impact on his legacy, barring some PED scandal or something along those lines. That aside, I really think Wlad is more or less firmly established with potential to maybe improve his standing, but probably nothing to harm it.

    :smoking:
     
  10. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    He should just retire.

    He's shot. It's either bums or losses.

    Both do nothing good for his resume.
     
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  11. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I don't go for all this legacy nonsense but if he was wanting to leave his mark in the sports history I think he has already done it. Picking Browne over Joshua changes or damages nothing.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    His legacy was soiled after he bottled it for every minute of every round against Tyson Fury.
    No ATG would ever hand over his belts on a whimper like that. When faced with adversity he turned his back and ran in the opposite direction. Is that the material all time greats are cut from these days:thinking:

    Look how Lewis reacted when in the same situation against Vitali. Just like Wlad he was getting beaten from the outside so he threw all caution to the wing and dragged Vitali into a war. He fought hard for that win hard , so hard he dropped like a sack of spuds into his corner after each round.
    Thats what greats are able to do. Legacies are built off doing what ordinary level guys can't do.
     
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  13. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah. He's past his prime. He's trying to cash out at the end of his career. He's still the name at HW.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Totally agree
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    He should have retired already.
    He can't really damage his legacy at this point. He can enhance his legacy and he can damage his health.

    I couldn't care less if he fights Browne, or Joshua, or Arnold Garbage if that's what he wants.
    I was vaguely interested in Wlad's rematch with Fury. Wlad seemed upset and committed to revenge and perhaps would have gone for broke for once ..... but I didn't think he'd win. Now since Fury disintegrated, Wlad holds little interest for me. He's clinging on to a high rating with little to back it up. He's becoming irrelevant anyway.

    Ironically, it seems people would be very keen to see Anthony Joshua (who has never faced a genuine proven contender) attempt to build a "legacy" on the back of beating up a washed-up 40-year-old who ought to be retired already. I guess that's part of the tradition.