Wlad still looks like he is fighing Arreola.

I don't see a problem with either Klitschko giving Haye a shot. What I see a problem with, is morons acting like Wlad is ducking Haye BASED on what he did at Cruiser. When in reality... he won titles in a WEAK division, and didn't even fight his best opponent at that weight, which was Cunningham. If people believe that Haye deserves an immediate shot at Klitschko, then I guess Adamek could talk some smack in an interview... and now he deserves an immediate shot as well... or Wlad is ducking him. Maybe Adamek could move up and beat Cliff Couser to show his dominance in the division.

 

Hey now, that actually makes real sense. :good:smoke

 

:rofl :yep It would not surprise me. First, Wladimir was scared of Haye & now Vitali is scared of him. These guys have like 85 fights between them but they're scared of David Haye. :nut

 

That's funny, I place Wlad 1 and Vitali 2. Are we operating different ranking systems?

As a sidenote though, I much prefer Vitali as a fighter.

 

Ha ha "consider yourself ignored...." Pretty tough.

What 'are you in 3rd grade' and a girl?

You know your arguments are weak and you don't have many, if any, "facts" to back up too much. Other objective people know it to. So that's good enough for me so I'm glad to be "ignored" you LITTLE BABY.

Also great facts: your "breakdown" of haye and arreola's records and you stating that the US media hypes arreola.

 

Neither are scared. The only thing I will say is that Wlad may have some doubts over his ability to cope with a hard puncher with fast hands. If Wladimir signs for the fight though, I'll give him full credit. In your unbiased opinion RUSKULL do you think Vitali was trying to protect his brother?

 

I used to jam to that song when it first came out...

You lied to me All this pain you said I'd never feel
You lied to me but I do, but I do do do

 

Adamek is just as proven... actually more proven at Cruiserweight than Haye is. Adamek beat O'neil Bell... who is even with Mormeck. He also beat Cunningham... who is better than Enzo. Just like Haye... he is also the Ring Mag Champ. Adamek deserves an immediate shot at Klitschko!

 

I'm a fan of both KLitschkos but Wladimir has achieved more and has the better legacy. Head to head it's hard to pick against Vitali though...........if that makes any sense. :yep

 

Vitali might be trying to protect his little bro, but I think Wlad is very confident in himself & his abilities. I'm sure he believes he'll beat Haye.

 

A lot of people think that... but it isn't the way that I feel. Vitali has simply always been within' a fighting system that worked best for him. Wlad used to be under trainers who never knew how to mold his talents... or give him a way of fighting that was best suited for his attributes. You could tell that Wlad was always somewhat uncomfortable in the ring, because his fighting style didn't suit him properly. Did you know that his old trainers used to only have him spar for a maximum of 4 rounds per session? They also made him spar at a high rate of speed for those 4 rounds. Now... isn't it funny how Wlad's fighting style used to play right into that? He used to throw everything but the kitchen sink within the first half of a fight. He didn't set up his power punches like he does now. He also didn't make sure to establish his battering jab in EVERY round of every fight. He also used to simply force his power punches from bad positions, and leave himself off balance after the punch. Right now... Wlad is at the top of his game. He shows a completely mastery of his skills, and does just about everything right.

That doesn't mean that Wlad didn't have great performances before... because most people couldn't deal with what Wlad threw at them anyways. It's just that his downsides came to light when he was too offensive minded and didn't properly prepare for what might be coming back at him... or if he threw everything that he had, and his opponent weathered the storm. He didn't have a defense outside of his offense, and he didn't spar enough to know how to fight when tired. He didn't know how to overcome adversity if he was hurt... because he never really experienced it.

 

Generally I agree with all that :thumbsup

 

Beating the last American hope will bring a true disaster for Wlad.
He will automatically drop outside top 20 p4p ....

 

Why is this subject still being discussed?
Who really cares about a Haye vs Klitschko fight? We all know the outcome of this if it were to happen. Haye will get ko'd by either brother. Nuff Said.

 

1) Haye would be a better opponent than Arreola
2) Arreola is a rather shitty opponent
3) Wlad may fight Haye after all, as Vitali is fighting Gomez next
4) It´s outrageous to say Wlad has fought weak competition, that´s something a hater would say