Wlad still looks like he is fighing Arreola.

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  1. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    At the age of 37 and having fallen to pieces and been put back together a number of times, I doubt Vitali is going to fight 3 months after a tough fight against another very tough fighter.

    I know that Vitali will take on Haye eventually, but Haye wants to retire undisputed by the age of 30, and Wlad promised that if he proved himself, he'd fight him. And he has in my opinion. Even if some think he hasn't, he's still far more proven than Arreola. Povetkin will come back from injury and be installed as mandatory again, Wlad will hide behind him.

    Haye will never become undisputed for one simple reason. Wladimir Klitschko will not fight him.
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Peter was a tough fight? :lol::rofl:patsch Peter a tough fighter? :lol::rofl:patsch

    The guy quit.

    Vitali barely even broke a sweat.
     
  3. TommyV

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    I'm talking about the possibility of fighting Haye 3 months after fighting Juan Carlos Gomez, who is the tough fighter I refer to.
     
  4. Jambo

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    This is quite a good fight. Arreola is still a dangerous fighter when you have a suspect chin like Wlad. More than likely Arreola gets knocked out, as his defence leaves a lot to be desired, and he has zero head movement.

    However if he can survive long enough, he can definitely make it a rough, physical fight for Wlad.

    This is far more interesting then any of Wlads recent defences, mostly due to the clash of styles.
     
  5. imp4pdabest

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    Peter was a tough fight?
     
  6. M.Alexander

    M.Alexander Tough Mofo Full Member

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    Sorry but get real. HAye will never be undisputed, because Wlad Klitschko will be undisputed after his brother retires. David Haye will get KTFO vs. either Klitschko. Dont buy the hype. The disappointment and the look for excuses will be huuuuge.
     
  7. TommyV

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    Nope, see post #18.
     
  8. TommyV

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    Haye has the power, the speed, the awkwardness, the aggressiveness & the youth and enthusiasm to be able to go in their and shatter Wladimir's suspect chin. Coupled with Wlad's tentativeness, the fact that he shits himself if he's within 6ft of a big puncher, and it makes it more than likely that it will happen.

    I don't buy the payday bull****. Klitschko doesn't need the payday, him and Lewis fought one of the biggest fights in history, he would of made millions. He probably made a fair bit for his comeback against Peter aswell, one of the most eagerly anticipated comebacks in years.

    In fact if anyone needed the payday, not that I think either do, it would be Wlad. His fights are so boring and uninspiring, you know he's going to win and it will be **** boring, so I doubt any PPV figures are doing that well.
     
  9. Feiti

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    Repeating myself for the 100th time:

    I´m a Klitschko fan but Arreola is a lousy fight for Wlad and not worthy of fighting him, except in monetary terms. I wish Wlad would fight Haye instead or sombody who has actually gotten any noteworthy wins on their resume, unlike Arreola. And damn I wish Wlad would get to fight Valuev and end his shame of a reign.
     
  10. TommyV

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    Thankyou.

    Finally a Wlad fan with some sense.

    Fighting Arreola does Wlad no good at all, he doesn't have to, it's voluntary. And he's contradicting himself by telling Haye he needs to 'prove' himself, when Arreola is far less proven than Haye!
     
  11. Predicto

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    How can a guy with only 2 jouneymen type fights at HW be "more proven" than a guy who's 26 + 0 (23ko) at heavyweight?

    I know Arreola's competition has been week... But still, you're giving a hell of a lot of weight to Haye's win over Barrett!

    I quess that puts Cliff Crouser in line for a shot too then does it? :huh
     
  12. RUSKULL

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    STFU you dumbass, nothings concrete yet. What makes you think Haye,with 2 fights at HW is more proven than Arreola in the division?

    Don't worry, your hero Herbie Haye will get his ass knocked out soon enough.
     
  13. TommyV

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    The difference between cruiserweight and heavyweight is hardly massive. Haye has proved himself a world-class fighter by becoming undisputed at cruiserweight. He is also a natural heavyweight, meaning he was bound to improve further as a fighter once he didn't have to worry about making the weight and draining himself. When do you ever see a world class fighter step up 1 division, baring in mind this is into his natural division, and suddenly become mediocre.

    Many times have fighters stepped up divisions and got title shots straight away, Haye though destroyed a decent contender in Barrett and still hasn't got one, despite it being the only real fight that makes sense in terms of money & recognition.

    Couser beat Barrett in the middle of a bad streak. Barrett since beat him in the rematch and won a further 2 fights, one against a big punching prospect in Tye Fields (no matter how bad he and his chin might be).

    Couser also hasn't proved himself against world-class opposition, something Haye has, against guys like Mormeck and Maccarinelli.
     
  14. RUSKULL

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    So true.
     
  15. TommyV

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    So Arreola is proven because he got a disqualification win over another lard arse US prospect in Chazz Witherspoon, and a win over Travis Walker and now he's in line to fight the unified champ at HW, ahead of a guy who is undisputed cruiserweight champion, recently destroyed a contender and is the fighter that makes the most sense financially and in terms of recognition if he beats him?