Wlad Still Underrated

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe I have spoken Full Member

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    Not underrated at all.
     
  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Leïla Bekhti fan club Full Member

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    Where do you have Wlad all time at heavyweight?
     
  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad absolutely an ATG without a doubt. His longevity alone not to mention his great power, conditioning and discipline.

    H2H Wlad was a specialized fighter. He only had one plan: the Jab and Grab. Great at taking out smaller and slower fighters. Wlad's greatest flaw was the inability to adapt during the fight. You saw this vs Joshua when AJ was there to be taken out, but Wlad kept throwing the same left hook from the same angle and missing all night long. He couldn't adapt. You saw this when Tyson Fury completely bamboozled him with just a little bit of reach combined with movement. You saw how he struggled against Jennings when the ref actually enforced the rules and wouldn't let him jab and grab.
    You even saw it earlier in his career (before Manny Steward turned him into Giant-Sized-John-Ruiz) when Corrie Sander's took away his jab and stopped him. Couldn't adapt.

    This is why I rate Vitali higher than his brother. Vitali could adapt, throw punches from different angles. He could brawl or box when needed.
     
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  4. Eggman

    Eggman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would favour vits personally. Great counter puncher with weird shots. Heavier handed, more aggressive fury. I reckon wlad would end up scared to throw, vits tko
     
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  5. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean his era was weaker than now, when we have 280 lbs nobody Andy Ruiz Jr. as the #1 ranked HW?
     
  6. Eggman

    Eggman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    40 year old vitali would box joshuas ears off.
     
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  7. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Ruiz is 10x the fighter Sam peter was and he took wlad to the brink
     
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  8. Simon Head

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    I think Wladimir will only continue to be underrated in the USA, because American’s don’t really care about boxing now it is more a world sport, so they like to look back on it fondly to when they were looked on as the best at it.

    In Britain and Europe Wladimir is definitely looked on as one of the best ever, his reign is only second to Joe Louis, and Wladimir is the longest reigning champion when it comes to combined reigns.
     
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  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Why do Europeans continue to spew this "it's more global now" as if it's a fact. Europe has been involved in pro boxing for over 100 years. So has south America and the carribean islands. Youth boxing is almost non existent in America and that's why your seeing success from other countries on the global scene surge. Acting as if all of this hidden talent just decided to show up is a fairy tale. Your hero's simply stepped into a gap America left because we no longer care. That's why ee presence in all other sports is non existent. We have the most mma champions right now. When we stop giving a **** I'm guessing mma will all the sudden have a surge of European champions as well
     
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  10. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sam Peter was never even close to being the #1 HW weight. Andy Ruiz right now is the de facto #1 HW.
     
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  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Your right, he wasn't. Sam peter was a **** boxer who gave wlad all he could handle. Ruiz would have pushed wlads **** in
     
  12. Simon Head

    Simon Head Member Full Member

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    I’m not European.

    Eastern Europe was not allowed to compete in bro boxing until the 90s.
     
  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Right. American youth boxing in the late 80s. Crazy coincidence isn't it that ee success surged in the 00s inst it
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Definitely not the worst era. Haye, Chagaev, Iggy, Byrd, Povetkin and Pulev would lay waste to most of the contenders pre-Ali and plenty of the champions too.
     
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  15. Simon Head

    Simon Head Member Full Member

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    The most successful amateur heavyweight was Cuban and not allowed to compete in pro boxing. I’m not looking at other medal winners right now, but people like Wlad, Vitali, Lomo and Uysik would not be allowed to compete back then, so that does explain USA success back when boxing was less of a world sport.
     
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