Wlad V George??????

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime Wlad ,whenever you think that is, versus the Foreman of the Norton fight.
    Does Wlad make it out of the first round?


    Comparisons.
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  2. PowerPuncher

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    Is this a reaction to everyone saying how great Wlad is.

    I'm torn on this match, Wlad would be in full jab and grab mode, which will make it hard for Foreman to get his shots off. Foreman had problems with tall men too. But if Foreman lands it all over and Wlad isnt getting off the hook.
     
  3. bodhi

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    I'm probably one of the few who favours Wlad to beat Big George. Wlad has a size advantage and he uses this advantage very, very well. He is great in keeping and judging range. To beat him you must be able to close the distance and avoid the jab of his. This can be done with outspeeding him, going in and out, throwing fast combinations like Ali would do. Or you need to fight small. Make your disadvantage an advantage. Moving forward, pressure him out of a crouch, like Marciano and Frazier would do.
    Foreman neither has the speed nor has he ever shown the ability to fight small. Wlad would be very very cautious. He would rarely throw something else but the jab and Foreman would eat them. It will be a dull fight with perhaps one or two scary moments for Wlad but in the end he will win a clear UD or perhaps even a late stoppage if Foreman gasses.
     
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    Foreman is very dynamic/athletic going forward though Bodhi and he isnt giving up as much range as many plu he has a high workrate. If Peter could KD Wlad I'm inclined to think Foreman would

    I think Vitali may beat Foreman, I'd go with Foreman against Wlad though
     
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    Most modern fighters dont make use of modern nutrition and training science, Wlad does but its not helping his chin
     
  6. mcvey

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    Which tall men gave George problems?
    Saverese ? 6'5'' decisioned at age 48.
    Coetzer ? 6'4'' kod at age 47
    Cooney ? 6' 5'' kod
     
  7. bodhi

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    Wlad has much more confidence now. Thanks to the Peter fight I think. I also one of the people who thinks Wlad's chin is decent. Two of his three losses had not much to do with his chin but with stamina issues, which seems to be solved now, and beeing exhausted. Sanders blitzed Wlad with his fast hands. Foreman won't do so.
     
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    Heavy squat training and neck training would help, his legs are toothpicks
     
  9. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In my opinion, the thing here is that George does not have to reach the chin to hurt Wladimir. Anything he hits will hurt. Wladimir will be jabbing and moving, while risking an occasional right hand. George will eat those jabs and right hands and will be coming forward and throwing bombs. At some point, probably around the 6th round, I believe George will catch and seriously hurt Wladimir...and then end it.
     
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    They don't look that skinny to me.
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  11. billy boy balbo

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    george i think even the 90s version of foreman would have a good chance against wlad
     
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    90's George would give him a fight.

    I see George managing to slam his jab in, disrupting Wlad, then stepping in to smash him up. A different level of fighter, styles or not
     
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    On the surface it may seem obvious that the man who was KO'd by Sanders, Purity and Brewster would be short lived against the man who easily destroyed Joe Frazier and Ken Norton.... But, boxing as we all know is not that simple. At one point, I would have readily picked Foreman to do the job of beating Wlad early, but I'm not so sure anymore.. Wlad has vastly improved since those dreadful losses many years ago, and wouldn't dare take a chance against a man whom he knew had more than enough power to render him unconcious... Furthermore, it has traditionally been fighters who utilized the left hook and not the right hand who finished him.. Foreman would be facing a physically superior man - something he was not accustomed to, and asside from Muhammad Ali, is probably the best techinical boxer he would have faced. Wlad has a wingspan that he could nail George with from a comfortable distance, along with the power to make those shots count. That's a bad combo for George who's defense was rather unpolished in the 1970's. Wlad is also a lot more patient than the fighter who charged at Corrie Sanders years ago, and can carry the fight into the later rounds, where George did not have the stamina to be as much of a threat... This is coming from a man who is a most avid George Foreman fan, and one who will always rate George higher from a legacy standpoint. Once again, Foreman had more than enough power to KO Klitschko, and if this were the 2003 version of Wladimir, then it might very well be a likely scenario...... But, In all honesty, I think the improved Wlad needs to be favored...
     
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    Very, very similar to how I see it. See my first post on here :good
     
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    I think George Foreman would just wade in at some point and catch Wladimir with something he wouldn't recover from.

    Even a glancing blow on the side of the head could start it all off.
    Wladimir's style cannot contain a Foreman, IMO.